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leo-j said:
NJ5 said:
leo-j said:
NJ5 said:

leo-j, stick this in your head: The PS3 and 360 haven't shown (or guaranteed) anything which is far above each other in terms of graphics.

The two systems have a substantially different architecture, so you will see games doing certain things better on one system than the other. What you probably won't see (according to me and many others) are games which, all things considered, are far above what the other platform can do.

 

 

 I have yet to see a better looking 360 game than gears of war, and uncharted is already considered the best looking console game.

Also with the recent release of GEARS 2 video, it seems the only graphicle inhancement was more enemies on screen and better lighting than gears of war, which indicates that gears 2 has peaked the 360 interms of performence hence why we see no visual improvement from gears 1 to gears 2.

On the other hand, Uncharted which is techinically more impressive than GEARS 1, is inferior to a couple of games for consoles. These games are " MGS4, and KILLZONE 2". Killzone 2 shows everything that seemed to be impossible on the PS3 hardware and surpasses expectations, those that doubt it are blind to see the truth.

 

I'm still waiting for a 60 fps PS3 game which looks better than this:

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/843/843290/ninja-gaiden-2-20080102000128225.jpg

I'm not even sure Uncharted really looks much better than Ninja Gaiden 2, and Uncharted is 30 fps... I never played Uncharted, but from the screenshots I can sure see it's a pretty well-done game, but technically... nothing above what the 360 has proven IMO.

 

You have never played the game therefore you can have no opinion on its visuals, not to mention those that have played the game(Reviewers) credit is as the best looking game on consoles.

Also MGS4 as well as Ratchet and clank of those games that surpass NINJA GAIDEN 2 visually and both run at 60fps.

 

 

 

 

Oh please, how idiotic can you get? He isnt allowed to comment because he has not played Unchartered but you are free to criticise the entire 360 console on the basis of a game that YOU yourself have not played yet(Gears 2)? MGS is pretty inconsistent with its framerate, is not even HD and textures are atrocious. Meanwhile I played Killzone 2 and it is not all you crack it up to be.

 

As for Ratchet and Clank, it looks like a PS2 game in HD and there too the framerate has more hiccups then a drunk hobo with a frog in his throat.



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Jordahn said:
sc94597 said:
kanariya said:
I haven't seen any console games have more realistic graphic than GT5P yet.

1080p @ 60fps

Everybody knows racing sims don't count.

 

 

 Why not?

Because its easier to make nice graphics, when you load a small track a little at the time, with not too much on screen. The world is so small so its easier to use the power that would otherwise be used for a larger world to make graphics better.



NJ5 said:
Yakuzaice said:
NJ5 said:

It's pretty hard to compare a cartoony-game to a game with more realistic graphics, but I don't see the substantial kind of difference I was looking for. Show me the best R&C screenshot you can find.

 

R&C is HD, has huge environments, tons of objects on screen, no mid level loading.  I have only noticed a few slowdowns (and they never dip down very low) in my four playthroughs.  For the most part it is locked at 60 FPS.

 

I know my fair share about computer graphics, but not enough to compare such different games. The Uncharted vs NG2 comparison is much more relevant, and NG2 can perfectly hold its own against it (even if the environments aren't as big) while running at double the framerate.

 

Uncharted is HD, has better texture work, no loading outside the initial, and more detailed character models.



leo-j said:
Squilliam said:
I sent a PM to every Mod on my friends list about you muahahahaah, just kidding. But seriously this could get you banned Leo - better settle it down mmmk?

 

 No, I wont get banned. Though its hard to believe you arent banned for the bull$hit attacks towards MGS4.

@NJ5

No thats not true, Ratchet and clank for the ps3 is locked at 60fps, no matter what the situation the FR doesnt drop.

 

 Get your eyes checked.



I say they both lag behind Wii... and no amount of facts will shift me!

Sound familiar?

Also, who cares? If you want to argue about graphics at least buy a decent PC and really have at it

Have a look at COD4 on a really high end PC (or Crysis obviously) and then argue about graphics.

Graphics are nice but if the gameplay is rubbish its like having a thin layer of really lovely sauce on putrid pasta if you ask me (sorry but I'm hungry right now and can only seem to think about food!).

Just to add something more constructive I'd say that 360 slightly edges PS3 for most current gen games (i.e. engines and techniques designed prior to PS3 such as say the U3 engine) however I feel that PS3 could deliver extra in gameplay if developers would pump more effort into using the thing for better AI, physics, etc. leveraging its extra number crunching and stop trying to push graphics only.

I keep thinking stuff like 'Uncharted looks fine, leave the graphics there and get the AI up, get the physics up, use the processing power to add stuff to the game within the same level of graphics'...




Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

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Who cares about the loading? This thread is about graphics, not lateral stuff like streaming which enables the no-loads policy.

The textures don't look much different in detail, maybe the character models are more detailed but let's not ignore the vast CPU/GPU penalty of 60 fps vs 30 fps.

 



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sc94597 said:
Jordahn said:
sc94597 said:
kanariya said:
I haven't seen any console games have more realistic graphic than GT5P yet.

1080p @ 60fps

Everybody knows racing sims don't count.

 

 

 Why not?

Because its easier to make nice graphics, when you load a small track a little at the time, with not too much on screen. The world is so small so its easier to use the power that would otherwise be used for a larger world to make graphics better.

 

So therefore, it's relative.  If kanariya wants to mention GT5P, maybe that's in comparison to other racing games of similar nature in his/her opinion.  I see nothing wrong with that.



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NJ5 said:

Who cares about the loading? This thread is about graphics, not lateral stuff like streaming which enables the no-loads policy.

The textures don't look much different in detail, maybe the character models are more detailed but let's not ignore the vast CPU/GPU penalty of 60 fps vs 30 fps.

 

 

Then why does frame rate matter?  A Crysis slideshow looks better than NG2, might not be playable, but it looks better.  And you are ignoring that NG2 runs at a lower resolution than uncharted.



demon123 said:

I think it is pointless to debate about this. The difference is blu ray on which you can get 50 GB of data, so higher quality graphics & sound without the need for compression and loss of quality.

 

 Right so you can have all these incredible uncompressed assets, and then you have to fit em in the 220mb the graphics card has available and can show.

Good going there.



Jordahn said:
sc94597 said:
Jordahn said:
sc94597 said:
kanariya said:
I haven't seen any console games have more realistic graphic than GT5P yet.

1080p @ 60fps

Everybody knows racing sims don't count.

 

 

 Why not?

Because its easier to make nice graphics, when you load a small track a little at the time, with not too much on screen. The world is so small so its easier to use the power that would otherwise be used for a larger world to make graphics better.

 

So therefore, it's relative.  If kanariya wants to mention GT5P, maybe that's in comparison to other racing games of similar nature in his/her opinion.  I see nothing wrong with that.

Of course, but its not the most technically impressive game, and in order to figure the power of a console by looking at games you must find which game uses most of the hardware. Also he is comparing it to non racing sims.