Yes you quite proved your objectivity and my bias earlier it was a revelation, I am so biased I didn't even know it myself. I'm pretty sure I have a better grasp on the english language than you do so don't go around insulting my understanding of a language by asking me my native language when you quite well know what it is.

Pointless to try to discuss something with someone who thinks so highly of themselves... 

I wasn't insulting you, I was legitmately asking to avoid insulting you. If English wasn't your native language that would be pretty damn insulting if I held you to the standard of someone who was a native speaker in questioning your understanding of other people's grammar and semantics.

And if you're not going to bother to respond to the content of my replies then don't bother trying to pick fights like this in the first place. Be careful your vendetta against me doesn't end up turning you into the troll.

 I don't have E-Vendettas against anyone lol

I'll stop discussing this, but you have to tell me why you edited your post in the Harvest Moon thread? I'm curious. No need to fill up more space on this thread with stuff that have nothing to do with the original discussion but tell me by message or something. 

What ever do you mean?

I played the game for about 12 hours before shelving it. I dont think the game is bad by any means but I think what is happening is that I am a lot older and that genre is just no longer impressing me. I thought FFX was horrible and I actually didnt feel so strongly about FFVII or FFVIII although they were leaps and bounds better than anything produced after. Im just getting old...

Perhaps (and this is only a theory) this is the result of any game that becomes too large (as a fandom/phenomenon). The greater the Final Fantasy legend becomes to gamers, the harder it is for each game to live up to an increasingly inflating measure. The more eyes that are drawn to it over time and the longer the franchise continues the more and more people start taking issue with, has it changed too much, has it not changed enough, does it no longer capture our imagination like the old ones did?

The two of you need to go sit in opposite corners of the room.

Having played all of the FF console games, I admit I enjoyed most of them. I purchased a PS1 when FF8 came out solely for FF7 and FF8. I liked FF7's twisted story and I liked the power behind the junction system. I purchased a PS2 for the DVD player and FFX. I liked FFX a lot (180 hours of blitzball with every player at max level, completely remade the sphere grid, etc.) My girlfriend liked FFX-2, but I couldn't play more than maybe 5 minutes before I started to feel physically ill from the voice acting. I played FFXI for a total of over 365 in-game played hours... it's a great game except other people are playing, and they're almost all retarded.

FFXII was such a huge disappointment for me, I've completely given up on SE and consequently I won't be buying a PS3 for FFXIII. FFXII was just graphics, the story was completely missing because they saved it for the little spinoff games. Something like 70% of the game seemed to be pointless side quests. Random treasure was the single most irritating thing I have ever seen in a video game. Resetting your console to get an item in a single player game is just a waste of time and tough on your hardware. The gambit system was just about as bad. With any sort of intelligence you can actually write yourself out of the game, leaving FFXII closer to a barely interactive movie without a plot than anything else. Why is there a monster that takes hours upon hours to kill that drops a weapon that sucks worse than the ones you already have? To date, FFXII is the only game I considered bad enough to have traded in to a used game store. I run a small card games shop (Magic: the Gathering), and every person who comes in owns a PS2. Everyone (And I do mean everyone, all 6 of them) who has played FFXII agrees with the basics of what I've said, the game is just all around terrible except the graphics. It's just a big timesink with very little storyline reward. Also, they agree Fran is hot.

Fran was nice... Be nice if she had more than three lines in the game though.

The one thing that really dissapointed me about this game was not so much the gameplay or mechanics, but the world itself. It was the world of FFTA that defined the game and its experience. This World is now seen through the eyes of FFXII almost censored, dulled and distanced, its as if implying the two were ever connected was solely for the sake of novelty and nothing more. Now the only race you can play other than a human as is a Viera (and the temporary characters don't count). To make matters worse, what was would have been a colorful cast characters designs in any other FF game is now a dull group of individuals whose appearances beg to be ignored (with exception of Fran of course) and scream conformity as a bunch of humans that all dress relatively the same and are indistinguishable from the people in their environment, its like FF8's cast spiced up with some FFX fashion sense. And sure there are technically more beast races in this game than in FFTA but you don't get to play any of them except one Viera. Hell, I only see one Nu-Mou in the whole game.

This of course is a spiralling trend in the FF main series games. After the commercial failure of FF9's product merchandising Square decided that its wasn't so much the characters in FF9 that were not appealing but rather the fact that they were non-human or had non-human characteristics and thus they began to downplay the inclusion of anything not human even more so from that point on falling back on the emo style of FF8 which did far better in merchandising than FF9 did (don't ask me how). And with the dissapointing sales of FFXI, Square once again assumed it was the beast races that were the issue. While spin-off games like Crystal Chronicles and FFTA expore any numbers of non-human characters, the main series games, as the big money makers, are becomming increasingly human-only seemingly trying once again every other game to reintroduce animal characters but then messing up the game some other way and thus concluding it was all for naught. And while I think we can all agree the ratio of human to non-human characters really isn't that important to the quality of the Final Fantasy games, it was kind of the thing that defined the world FFXII was suppossed to be set in!