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mysticD on 26 June 2008

@SSJ

How did you even get to become a mod?  You call forum poster named  because you don't like that I call your  post trolling? So is the acceptable for mod to call people a retard.

You are asking me to grow up?  May be take your own advice would be good.

You can ban me if you want me to leave, it doesn't really matter, but really if you are going to wear mod shoes, you really should behave like one.



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heruamon on 26 June 2008

If the PSN update delivers on what is expected, it's going to bring PSN closer to XBL, but that's assuming XBL is standing still for PSN to delvelop.  With Sony's recently revealed losses, and with no projects to stem them, I think investors will start to put pressure on Sony and maybe charge customers for more PSN features.  i don't see Home bieng completely free either...maybe for Home basic, which will be like WoW free to level 20...ouch!  XBL is so darn easy to use, it's incredible, and it's easy for developers to integrate into their games, making it far more seamless.



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder

coolestguyever on 26 June 2008

well its got its advantages, but nothing that warrants a $60 price tag in my humble opinion.



heruamon on 26 June 2008

I pay $77 every 6 months to Blizzard, I pay $14.99 for Tabula Rasa, so to me...$59 buck a year is a bargin. It's the price of one game...so I'm puzzled as to why it's too much. Free and good, until stuff starts turning into vaporware...Home has been psuhed into 2009, and Sony gets a complete pass on it...had that been MS...it would have been..."OMG...the 360 is DEAD DEAD DEAD!!!"  BTW, you get a $20 discount on any 360 game, and 200 pts as well...that makes the acutally cost of XBL less when you utilize it all.



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder

ToastyJaguar on 26 June 2008
ssj12 said:
mysticD said:

Well you know that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

If XBL is not better why do you think Sony is copy all the bullet points for PSN.

They are copy Gamercards, Gamerscore, achievements. They are doing in game XMB (XBL dash), in game soundtrack and in game chat. They are also going to copy community feature like cross game invite, may be friend list ?

But anyway, all these features are available already on XBL not to mention mountain of contents. All the arcade game demo, free movies (mostly crappy), rental movies, free demo, not to mention trailers ...

As for XBL being more laggy, I don't know what you guys pulling that bull-crap from. I play GT5P and it's no better than racing game on 360. The on-line feature of GT5P is pretty weak, bumper car mayhem not to mention the lack of invite and match up so you end up playing with random jerck that going backward on the track. I don't have COD4 on PS3 but on 360 it play just fine.

@SSJ

Just because you don't care about the features dosn't mean it's not a feature.  You are a fricking mod for crying out loud stop acting like a troll.

Blu-ray is a great feature on PS3 and I used it all the time.  Some might not care for it but it still is a great feature.  Would you have remove that as "feature" because some might said they don't like watching movie on a "gaming" system.

Please grow up and act like a mod if you are going to be one.

you = tard thank you.

I just questioned the need for those features. Really does very many people really need them? Not all games need to feature in-game chat. And why not support an IM program that everyone uses like AIM?

Quit being a TARD when I standed my OPINION and asked why anyone cared about about those features. If your going to call me out on bais of any kind do it on grounds of me saying PC > Consoles always not an opinion. Grow up or LEAVE THE FORUMS.

Aside from the bickering here, you are right, not all games need to feature in game chat

But Xbox live is universal in games in that chatting with anyone is not dependeble on the game.

I can play Halo 3 with a bunch of dudes but i can chat to my friend who's playing Call of Duty 4 for example.

My main problem with the PSN is that alot of the online stuff is so focused around what game you are playing, for instance the games at the moment require a specific in game friends list like UT3 to play and chat.

 

If Sony want to make their service as good as live they really have a long way to go, i don't think home is enough. It's about alot of community integration which Microsoft just do so well at the moment. I check Xbox.com near daily to see what my friends are playing and to send them messages which is surprisingly addictive. But also a bunch of websites are dedicated to Xbox live like 360voice.com which logs your progess. It's just a really good system and who knew it would be so big and addictive.

 

 

 




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heruamon on 26 June 2008
ToastyJaguar said:
ssj12 said:
mysticD said:

Well you know that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

If XBL is not better why do you think Sony is copy all the bullet points for PSN.

They are copy Gamercards, Gamerscore, achievements. They are doing in game XMB (XBL dash), in game soundtrack and in game chat. They are also going to copy community feature like cross game invite, may be friend list ?

But anyway, all these features are available already on XBL not to mention mountain of contents. All the arcade game demo, free movies (mostly crappy), rental movies, free demo, not to mention trailers ...

As for XBL being more laggy, I don't know what you guys pulling that bull-crap from. I play GT5P and it's no better than racing game on 360. The on-line feature of GT5P is pretty weak, bumper car mayhem not to mention the lack of invite and match up so you end up playing with random jerck that going backward on the track. I don't have COD4 on PS3 but on 360 it play just fine.

@SSJ

Just because you don't care about the features dosn't mean it's not a feature.  You are a fricking mod for crying out loud stop acting like a troll.

Blu-ray is a great feature on PS3 and I used it all the time.  Some might not care for it but it still is a great feature.  Would you have remove that as "feature" because some might said they don't like watching movie on a "gaming" system.

Please grow up and act like a mod if you are going to be one.

you = tard thank you.

I just questioned the need for those features. Really does very many people really need them? Not all games need to feature in-game chat. And why not support an IM program that everyone uses like AIM?

Quit being a TARD when I standed my OPINION and asked why anyone cared about about those features. If your going to call me out on bais of any kind do it on grounds of me saying PC > Consoles always not an opinion. Grow up or LEAVE THE FORUMS.

Aside from the bickering here, you are right, not all games need to feature in game chat

But Xbox live is universal in games in that chatting with anyone is not dependeble on the game.

I can play Halo 3 with a bunch of dudes but i can chat to my friend who's playing Call of Duty 4 for example.

My main problem with the PSN is that alot of the online stuff is so focused around what game you are playing, for instance the games at the moment require a specific in game friends list like UT3 to play and chat.

 

If Sony want to make their service as good as live they really have a long way to go, i don't think home is enough. It's about alot of community integration which Microsoft just do so well at the moment. I check Xbox.com near daily to see what my friends are playing and to send them messages which is surprisingly addictive. But also a bunch of websites are dedicated to Xbox live like 360voice.com which logs your progess. It's just a really good system and who knew it would be so big and addictive.

 

 

 

 

 Exactly, I can check my info or my friends online with up to date info...The achievements thing is also a bonus, since there's no lying about what you did...kinda like what happened with the armory on WoW...can't lie about stuff as easily anymore...lol...that's a minor reason ofcourse, but I love to check my stuff anywhere...any place...any computer.



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder

Fei-Hung on 26 June 2008

does this mean, when playstation home is released that psn will be better then xbl :S
Apparently the new firm ware for the psn will have custom soundtrack, live messaging and trophies added on and playstation home will have everything xbl offers and a lot more (a live virtual 3d world).

Although i agree that xbm is better in its own way at the moment, i think the addition of divx compatibility on the ps3 is the most awesome future. This would pretty much make downloading movies and paying to rent them worthless (although it's nice to have the option there anyway).

Was just wondering, since ps3 runs with a linux os, is it not possible to to surf using a web browser and installing msn messenger :s hmmmm



windbane on 26 June 2008
reptile168 said:
leo-j said:
reptile168 said:
PSN started a subscription fee for Qore stuffs like demos and videos, which are available for free on Xbox live. Xbox Live charges you for multiplayer. So, it's your choice to decide whether Multiplayer fees or Demo/video fees are more ripping you off.

On top of the mentioned Xbox live and PSN stuffs, I believe the XBox Live Graphical interface is much more friendly than the PSN. Media Center for streaming contents from PC is really simple too.

I'm not sure whether the following option is xbox live exclusive, but Live has full parental controls.

 

No thats complete bull $hit.

QORE does not charge you for vidoes or demos.. its like paying for a magazine.

And no demos are not FREE if you want them immediately on XBOX LIVE.

 


Demos usually appear earlier for Live anyway. Silver membership waits 1 week before being able to play a demo, wow, that's absolutely ridiculous amount of time for those extremely anticipated demos.

Every game videos and demos are free for Live, while Sony is starting to charge you guys a monthly magazine fee to view some "exclusive" videos and demos.


A year subcription to Qore is half the price of a year of Live. Demos may be released early on Qore in the future, but that is not the case yet. It's mainly about extended developer interviews and beta invites. It only cost $3 to get a Socom beta invite. That's a rather good price. Everything else is still free.



windbane on 26 June 2008

A lot of people have listed video chat as a reason Live is better. PS3 has that for at least 4 people at a time (I think it might be 6), and the Playstation Eye is a better camera (of course, any USB webcam will work).



Morgyn on 26 June 2008

PSN > Live.

Purely as its free, I've not re-subbed live in the last year since getting the PS3.