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kingofwale on 18 June 2008
Bodhesatva said:

I agree, King. I'm just pointing out that the investment has to be "graphical assets" and not just "story and concept art." We know it's not just story and concept art, because we've seen trailers.

 

 

I watched FF retroprospective, and apparently doing concept art is VERY expensive, which lead me to believe there's no way SE will cancel the game.

 

anyway, Let's pray FFXIII comes out late this year or early next year, I'm itchy for some JRPG



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DMeisterJ on 18 June 2008
Soriku said:
DMeisterJ said:
Birth By Sleep playable? w00t!

Too bad you won't get to play it Also, they said it's gonna be a while until it's done. Making it playable is just a test.

Meanie >_<.

But at least we'll get to hear about it



kingofwale on 18 June 2008
DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
DMeisterJ said:
Birth By Sleep playable? w00t!

Too bad you won't get to play it Also, they said it's gonna be a while until it's done. Making it playable is just a test.

Meanie >_<.

But at least we'll get to hear about it

 

Is BBS the title for the KH psp game???

Heck, it will be a lot sooner than you will ever play KH3. Soriku.

 

Also, don't forget out bet. :)



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
Zuhyc on 18 June 2008

Well, the team that develops the 3 KH-games is also more or less the Versus XIII team. SO maybe when these are finished, they will start working on the game, when FF XIII is released they can put everyone on the project!



alpha_dk on 18 June 2008
kingofwale said:
Bodhesatva said:

I agree, King. I'm just pointing out that the investment has to be "graphical assets" and not just "story and concept art." We know it's not just story and concept art, because we've seen trailers.

 

 

I watched FF retroprospective, and apparently doing concept art is VERY expensive, which lead me to believe there's no way SE will cancel the game.

 

anyway, Let's pray FFXIII comes out late this year or early next year, I'm itchy for some JRPG

 

Concept art is nothing next to the 3-d models....

That's not to say I believe they are going to cancel it (I don't), but there is a saying you should learn:

"Throw good money after bad"

It applies to when someone is so heavily invested in a bad investment that they can't see that they would be better off cutting their investment and calling it a day, and admitting that the investment is lost.

Lets say FFXIII costs 100M (probably at least partially realistic, if two dev groups are working on it, with the scale of graphics and the expectations for the story people have, and the length of development, and numerous other factors.

Let's then say they sell 4M copies (NOTE: I predict it will be about double that; this is a nightmare scenario as a 'What If').  They'll almost certainly make money on 4M sales; however, it will not nearly be enough to be worth the risk of another project of that scale. 

In this case, they could easily decide to throw away the (say) $5M-10 they've spend making concept art rather than spend another 40-60M designing and marketing another game.



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FilaBrasileiro on 18 June 2008

I see this as good news, maybe FFXIII is not as far from release as we all thought it was (I personally thought Dec '09 at the earliest).



PhatLaosBoi on 18 June 2008
shanbcn said:
BengaBenga said:
You really think they'll announce KH3 after FFvsXIII is done?
Of course not KH is their third most successful franchise and will definitely be a higher priority than a FF spin-off (how good it might be).

KH3 is in development (maybe early, who nows), because if not it wouldn't be finished before the end of this gen.
And I'm pretty sure SE would like to see at least one KH this gen.

2008: DQ
2009: FF
2010: KH

 

FFvXIII is not the spin off, its completly diffrent game then FF13 and will be way bigger then KH3.

 

Which essentially makes FFvXIII a spin-off.



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konnichiwa on 18 June 2008
Soriku said:
Zuhyc said:
Well, the team that develops the 3 KH-games is also more or less the Versus XIII team. SO maybe when these are finished, they will start working on the game, when FF XIII is released they can put everyone on the project!


No, the 3 KHs are being made by different teams. The BBS team is the ones who did CoM, the DS team is the one who made FF Fable/Chocobo games, and the cell phone one is the one being made by the Agito XIII team. Nomura is directing all of them though. The KH team doesn't do anything for the spin-offs. They only develop the main series.

=p Always doublecheck the sources if you write something about KH Zuhyc...... Soriku has a sixth sence, with it he can hear that people are typing something wrong about KH =p.

 






The Fury on 18 June 2008

If this means FFXIII gets finished sooner and they pull their heads out of their arses long enough to get it release within a year in Europe of the Japanese release then I'm all for it. They can then work on FFVsXIII full time.

KH3 isn't due until 2011 anyway (looking at time between KH1 and KH2 releases)



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akuma587 on 18 June 2008

Good, this means we will probably see FFXIII in 2009. That is bad news about FFXIII Versus though...



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