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There's two possible competing effects for TB driving 360 sales in Japan:

- People who were interested in BD but didn't quite get a 360 might get tipped over by both TB+BD.

- People who would be interested in TB already bought a 360 for BD.

We'll see which one wins out (if either).



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kber81 said:

@ WiiGirl76

Do they list scores on the website? 


No not on their website, mostly other gamesites provide these figures. As soon as I see them I'll send them to you ;)



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kber81 said:

@ WiiGirl76

Do they list scores on the website? 


No not on their website, mostly other gamesites provide these figures. As soon as I see them I'll send them to you ;)

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Famitsu Top 20 Most Wanted Titles
18. Trusty Bell: Chopin no Yume Xbox 360 Bandai Namco

so, some gamers do know about TB in Japan. :)
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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

Blue Dragon sold 85,000 units on launch week.

It then went on to sell 20,000+ units for the next 2-3 weeks, and ended up with 144,000 units sold after the first week in January.

Since then, it's stayed on the top-10 X360 games month in and month out, and has almost locked itself in with a 20%+ attach ratio for every 360 sold since January.

Currently, it stands at a 2.21 multiplier, which is VERY, and I mean VERY impressive, as typical JRPGs that are huge (Tales of, Kingdom Hearts, Monster Hunter, FF series, DQ, et all) suffer multipliers far below 2.0.

Now we see if TB continues where BD left off, or just caters to the current install base of the 360. IMO, it should do a bit for both, but how much, we'll have to see.



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Wow, I didn't realize Japanese retailers were so bullish on Trusty Bell. It looks my risky prediction in Alacrist's "Which will happen first" thread wasn't so risky after all. Also what do you think the over under is on Blue Dragon hitting 200k MrStickball?



I think BD hitting 200k is near a certainty, even without Trusty Bell.

Blue Dragon sold 693 copies last week, and is only 11,470 units away from hitting 200k LTD.

This might seem like a lot of units to cover, since it's only selling 700 a week. However, BD has done well when 360 hardware has done well. 1 month ago, it sold 1800 in one week when the 360 sold 3,500 units due to Golden Week.

Thats a 60% decrease over 4 weeks - not bad considering the X360 hardware dropped 40% in sales in the same period. One would say it doesn't bode well.

But then you check early April, and Blue Dragon was selling 1,200 per week.

So after everything's said and done, since April, sales have decreased a mere 600 units/wk in 2 months. That's pretty good. Add in the fact that Trusty Bell could move 5,000 hardware units (at a very very low prediction), and we should see Blue Dragon hit 190,000 units LTD easy, or even 192,000~193,000. So it only has to move 7,000 units for the rest of it's life.

Honestly? I'll go out on a limb and say that Blue Dragon has enough gas in it (provided Trusty Bell moves 10,000 h/w units or more, and keeps the 360 sustained for a month before it goes down to 2,000 h/w a week), to reach 210,000 at a minimum, and even hit 225,000 at the end, as it should get a strong increase when Lost Odyssey launches.

A 50/50 over/under ratio for Blue Dragon is somewhere at 210~215k (50/50 chance it breaks 215k), atleast in my estimation. It's had a great run thus far, and sales have proven via Golden Week, that when hardware sales boost, so does Blue Dragon's sales.

A final example:

Blue Dragon's VGChartz ranking in 2/18/2007: #84
Blue Dragon's VGChartz ranking in 6/03/2007: #122

Dropping 40 places in 3 and 1/2 months is nothing short of amazing for an RPG.



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WiiGirl76 said:
kber81 said:

@ WiiGirl76

Do they list scores on the website?


No not on their website, mostly other gamesites provide these figures. As soon as I see them I'll send them to you ;)


  Thanks in advance.



mrstickball said:
I think BD hitting 200k is near a certainty, even without Trusty Bell.

Blue Dragon sold 693 copies last week, and is only 11,470 units away from hitting 200k LTD.

This might seem like a lot of units to cover, since it's only selling 700 a week. However, BD has done well when 360 hardware has done well. 1 month ago, it sold 1800 in one week when the 360 sold 3,500 units due to Golden Week.

Thats a 60% decrease over 4 weeks - not bad considering the X360 hardware dropped 40% in sales in the same period. One would say it doesn't bode well.

But then you check early April, and Blue Dragon was selling 1,200 per week.

So after everything's said and done, since April, sales have decreased a mere 600 units/wk in 2 months. That's pretty good. Add in the fact that Trusty Bell could move 5,000 hardware units (at a very very low prediction), and we should see Blue Dragon hit 190,000 units LTD easy, or even 192,000~193,000. So it only has to move 7,000 units for the rest of it's life.

Honestly? I'll go out on a limb and say that Blue Dragon has enough gas in it (provided Trusty Bell moves 10,000 h/w units or more, and keeps the 360 sustained for a month before it goes down to 2,000 h/w a week), to reach 210,000 at a minimum, and even hit 225,000 at the end, as it should get a strong increase when Lost Odyssey launches.

A 50/50 over/under ratio for Blue Dragon is somewhere at 210~215k (50/50 chance it breaks 215k), atleast in my estimation. It's had a great run thus far, and sales have proven via Golden Week, that when hardware sales boost, so does Blue Dragon's sales.

A final example:

Blue Dragon's VGChartz ranking in 2/18/2007: #84
Blue Dragon's VGChartz ranking in 6/03/2007: #122

Dropping 40 places in 3 and 1/2 months is nothing short of amazing for an RPG.

 

mr stickball your cracking me up with your intensive analysis of whether Blue Dragon will stop at 190,000 or continue to 225,000. Hardly seems worthy of debate unless your passionate about the 360's success in japan. Which btw I am, I'm probably second behind you for wanting this. I think these three games(TB, BD, and LO) really need to prove something by year end, or alot of Japanese developers will pretty much permenantly make up their mind about 360 development. Although if they manage a silmiliar price cut to what they are talking about here like the 200 dollar core system I don't see how Japan can pass it up. Imagine seeing Blue dragon for 30 bucks with $200 core system, and Lost Odyessy on the shelf. And there is enough other titles I beilieve to tempt the Japanese audience, I really don't see that failing horribly. Or at least I'll be shocked if people continue to ignore it's presence.

 



Wow... I've just spotted X360 bundled with Trusty Bell (¥ 31,290) is cheaper than standard version (¥ 38,200)... who's paying for this?... probably Bill... Japan is a heaven for gamers. Prices are so small compared to EU or even to USA.
 
Less than $270 for an X? Awesome deal.
 
Shit. It's even cheaper than Wii there....