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this thread is pointless and a bit misunderstood the xbox360 cant=gamecube and the ps3 cant=xbox because both are selling better then what you say they are.



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@toastboy

He means in respect to marketshare and position. Obviously it's a given that the 360 will pass the GC.



toastboy44562 said:
this thread is pointless and a bit misunderstood the xbox360 cant=gamecube and the ps3 cant=xbox because both are selling better then what you say they are.

Well, actually, if you use the ratio of how much better the Wii is doing than the PS2, then the PS3 and 360 are both actually selling worse than the gamecube, if you understand what I'm telling you.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

it will just get worse for the HD consoles



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The Wii is a fad.

That's why I bought one.



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Nintendo doing well is not a new phenomenon. Cheap last generation hardware almost ALWAYS outsells the latest and greatest but has a shorter shelf life. Both the Playstation and PSOne sold most of their huge 100 million+ sales when they dropped so far (to about 100 dollars) that they were easy impulse buys. The Wii just started where the PS2 and PS1 ended up, as cheap last gen tech that can be had cheaply.

Its not like Sony couldn't have made a PS2.5 and undercut Nintendo on the Wii, but they made a conscious decision to prioritize HD adoption rather then simply units sold. They're playing a vastly different game. Nintendo likes to make money only in video games so they make cheap last gen hardware (the N64 was way behind vs PS1 and Saturn, the Gamecube was way behind both PS2 and Xbox, the Wii is behind vs 360 and PS3) that makes money early and provides a platform for their rerun 1st party games which more or less never change over decades.

If you play N64 versions of all the Wii games there's not much difference (I would go further back but N64 moved things to 3D so they're more exactly the same though Galaxy is damn similar to Super Mario Bros). Mario 64 is incredibly similar to Galaxy, Orcania of Time is almost identical to Twilight Princess, Mario kart is identical to the early 90s SNES game (even pulling in some of the same stages). Nintendo capitalizes on old ideas and old tech and makes a lot of money doing it, but not as much as Sony does across all its markets. Nintendo this gen has beaten Sony marginally in gaming revenue (by about 10-20% depending on quarter) but Sony has made huge gains in HDTV sales, receiver sales, Blu Ray sales and countless other peripheral markets that depend on cutting edge tech to drive business. I've spent thousands on Sony gear that can use the PS3's 1080p high def technology I would never have bought for a Wii (I can't even get above 480p graphics with that)

Go ahead and say Nintendo is "winning" on gaming revenue, but do you really want 2001 graphics for the next 20 years? Every time I see imagine babies and the like all over gamestop (and sales charts) now it makes me very sad, but just because a company can clean up making mainly cheap crap with high margins doesn't mean that a cutting edge company like Sony doesn't have a position (and isn't making WAY more revenue then Nintendo ever could across gaming and related electronics). The only one really losing is MS who has about 30% of either Nintendo's or Sony's gaming revenue and has none of Sony's related tech sales unless the RROD makes you want to buy a Zune.

Don't forget to add in PS2 for your end of 2008 predictions, if you look at the charts the PS2 is still selling hundreds of thousands of units per month (and millions near the holidays).




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toastboy44562 said:
this thread is pointless and a bit misunderstood the xbox360 cant=gamecube and the ps3 cant=xbox because both are selling better then what you say they are.

i think he meant in position like 360 being third just like gc

tag:"reviews only matter for the real hardcore gamer"

RolStoppable said:
DMeisterJ said:
The Wii is a fad.

That's why I bought one.

You are the perfect candidate for the brandnew quick and easy 5-steps-program to deal with annoying people:

Buy Mario Kart Wii, exchange FCs with me, play against me, get owned and shut up.


I will! 

Eventually

I don't want to bog another thread down with MK, but what if I win?  What will you do with yourself?



Impulsivity said:
Nintendo doing well is not a new phenomenon. 

I removed everything incorrect from your post.  Please check facts next time.

Horrible first post BTW.



Impulsivity said:
Nintendo doing well is not a new phenomenon. Cheap last generation hardware almost ALWAYS outsells the latest and greatest but has a shorter shelf life. Both the Playstation and PSOne sold most of their huge 100 million+ sales when they dropped so far (to about 100 dollars) that they were easy impulse buys. The Wii just started where the PS2 and PS1 ended up, as cheap last gen tech that can be had cheaply.

Its not like Sony couldn't have made a PS2.5 and undercut Nintendo on the Wii, but they made a conscious decision to prioritize HD adoption rather then simply units sold. They're playing a vastly different game. Nintendo likes to make money only in video games so they make cheap last gen hardware (the N64 was way behind vs PS1 and Saturn, the Gamecube was way behind both PS2 and Xbox, the Wii is behind vs 360 and PS3) that makes money early and provides a platform for their rerun 1st party games which more or less never change over decades.

If you play N64 versions of all the Wii games there's not much difference (I would go further back but N64 moved things to 3D so they're more exactly the same though Galaxy is damn similar to Super Mario Bros). Mario 64 is incredibly similar to Galaxy, Orcania of Time is almost identical to Twilight Princess, Mario kart is identical to the early 90s SNES game (even pulling in some of the same stages). Nintendo capitalizes on old ideas and old tech and makes a lot of money doing it, but not as much as Sony does across all its markets. Nintendo this gen has beaten Sony marginally in gaming revenue (by about 10-20% depending on quarter) but Sony has made huge gains in HDTV sales, receiver sales, Blu Ray sales and countless other peripheral markets that depend on cutting edge tech to drive business. I've spent thousands on Sony gear that can use the PS3's 1080p high def technology I would never have bought for a Wii (I can't even get above 480p graphics with that)

Go ahead and say Nintendo is "winning" on gaming revenue, but do you really want 2001 graphics for the next 20 years? Every time I see imagine babies and the like all over gamestop (and sales charts) now it makes me very sad, but just because a company can clean up making mainly cheap crap with high margins doesn't mean that a cutting edge company like Sony doesn't have a position (and isn't making WAY more revenue then Nintendo ever could across gaming and related electronics). The only one really losing is MS who has about 30% of either Nintendo's or Sony's gaming revenue and has none of Sony's related tech sales unless the RROD makes you want to buy a Zune.

Don't forget to add in PS2 for your end of 2008 predictions, if you look at the charts the PS2 is still selling hundreds of thousands of units per month (and millions near the holidays).

This post is trollerific!  From backhanded "compliments" to all-out fabrications.  The N64 was more powerful than the PS1 and the Saturn.  It lacked only in storage medium.  The Gamecube was clearly more powerful than the PS2, and (in some ways more powerful than the X-Box.  Look at where that got them - last place.  They are trying a different strategy and it is working.  GO NINTENDO. 

 For the record, I only own a PS3, I am stoked about MGS4, I will be getting a Wii as soon as I can randomly walk into a store and find one around here and (as for 360) it's a great console, but 2 is my limit (until I retire my PS2 and replace it with 360 in the bedroom to play games and watch DVD's).