They rarely gave you meaningful choices by forcing your hand... but the main character stayed more "everyman".  Very few times did your main character do something where you said "why the hell would you do that..."
 and make some REALLY dumb choice.

For example with a nameless protaganist you often got the choice of say a character is trying to lead you into an ambush... and it couldn't be any more obvious.

You can actually choose to distrust the person... and then they pull out a knife on some kid or something, and your lead into the ambush anyway.

vs current RPGS where people get led into the ambsuh following the guys long black hat and cape... while the villains keeps saying "you'll really get the POINT!" twirling his thin mustached the whole time with the other hand holding a big sack of money with dollar signs on it.

 Exactly, that´s how a "true" RPG should be. Also I will like to add that single endings are not a hindrance in the RPG side.

 An important point here is that this is not a criticism of games with the JRPG label.  Just because it isn't a RPG doesn't mean it is any less of a game.  It is just a different genre.  I am criticizing the label, not the genre.

 I give that post a 9.2. 

According to Wikipedia an RPG is:

An electronic role-playing game is a broad genre of video games. These games are originally derived from traditional role-playing games, especially Dungeons & Dragons, and use both the settings and game mechanics found in such games.

Typically, gameplay centers around one or more avatars, with quantized characteristics that evolve over the course of the game, and take the place of the gamer's own skill in determining game outcomes. Another common element in RPGs is a well-developed fictional setting. These attributes are traditionally displayed to the player on a status screen as a numeric value, instead of a simpler abstract graphical representation, such as the bars and meters favored by video games in general.

The stories featured usually involve a group of characters (a party) who have joined forces in order to accomplish a mission or "quest". Along the way, the adventurers must face a great number of challenges and enemies. These are usually monsters inspired by fantasy fiction, and, to a lesser extent, science fiction and classical mythology.

If JRPG are not RPG, I wonder what they are... And besides JPRG and WRPG are unofficial sub-genres. It's just a way to show how different those kind of games play but ultimately, they are in the same genre.

True, but many jRPGs are still story-driven RPGs, although with few freedom of choice, you can customize your characters the way you want, from the weapons he will wield to the skills he will learn and also have various paths. They just don´t that much of an alinear path like western RPGs.

 Also, an important factor is chaos/luck (rolling the dice) which most RPGs have, but generally Action RPGs lack.

I think that only games like MMO's, where there is no set storyline that you have to follow, could truly be considered RPG's. You can customizer your appearance as you see fit, and if you'd rather have a drink at the tavern than save the princess then so be it.

 One game I played recently that walks the Action Game/RPG border is The Witcher.  What was interesting about the game is that some of the decisions you made in the game completely locked off aspects of the game.  In fact, it is entirely possible that you would not know what opportunity you just missed.  Sometimes it affected small things and other times larger things (like one of the games 3 endings).  Moving any story forward, however is going to deprive you of many of the choices you would make in that situation.  Again, there will never be a pure RPG on computers/consoles.  Even if there was, people would probably get bored of it.

I give that post 9.6. 

Obviously you never role-played in any of my parties. We never accomplished shit. It wall all "side quests" that we generally made up on the fly, usually resulting in at least one dead party member and at least 75% of the rest of the party jailed for one reason or another.

STOP THE POST RATING , WHEN WILL THIS STOP !!!.

Bingo, and I agree completely.  This is a  MUCH better method of classifying RPG's.  I'm a TRPG fan which the ps3 sorely lacks right now.  Enchanted Arms is the only one if you can even call that a game.