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fkusumot on 14 June 2008
Kasz216 said:
ookaze said:

Graphics never were the selling point of JRPG, I still wonder how people could be fooled in believing that. 


See FF7-12.


See Dragon Quest.

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Gamer4eva on 14 June 2008

Simple actually

- It's American
- Their hardware reliabilty is shit compared to SONY'S PS3 and the Wii
- Final Fantasy is on PS3
- Supports no PS2/PS1 games,, duh!
- It's American (YES I KNOW)



Kasz216 on 14 June 2008
fkusumot said:
Kasz216 said:
ookaze said:

Graphics never were the selling point of JRPG, I still wonder how people could be fooled in believing that.


See FF7-12.


See Dragon Quest.

 Dragon Quest doesn't sell nearly as well outside of japan.  Which... was my point.  Not that graphics is important on RPGs.  they aren't... but that's why plenty of people think it is.



bluster on 14 June 2008
Kasz216 said:
Riot Of The Blood said:
lmao @ the 360 being the RPG king. It doesn't even have 10 solid jrpg's.

While Wii and PS3 don't even have 1...

"In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is King."


hahahahahahaha

 

Good one Kasz, you are completely right in that.

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Diomedes1976 on 14 June 2008

Well ,if truth has to be told the best JRPG for the 360 is Lost Oddysey that is a solid 8 not more.

Its maybe too soon to say things as RPG king dont you think ?



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Riachu on 14 June 2008
Diomedes1976 said:
Well ,if truth has to be told the best JRPG for the 360 is Lost Oddysey that is a solid 8 not more.

Its maybe too soon to say things as RPG king dont you think ?

LO is more like an 8.5 to me

Even so, Tales of Vesperia, Infinite Undiscovery, The Last Remnant, and Star Ocean:The Last Hope all have the potential to be better than LO in terms of both quality and sales 

 



 

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Riachu on 14 June 2008
Kasz216 said:
ookaze said:

Reading this thread, it's pretty clear to me why people can't understand why the XB360 is not doing good in Japan.
I mean, it's pretty obvious. But the problem is that it doesn't go well with the alternate reality, the utopia of the people for whom the XB360 should be doing well in Japan no matter what. So as reality doesn't go well with their utopia, they make their own BS, and what's more amazing, they're eating it.
Nonsense like "360 is the king of rpg's this gen", or "Japan is even more nationalistic than the USA", or even better, 360 is a reliable console.

No wonder these people can't ever understand why the 360 isn't doing good in Japan. Getting back to Earth would help I guess. That is, if they want to get back, which probably isn't the case.

The problem with MS, is that they often destroy what they partner with. In this case, getting several JRPG companies in Japan to make games for their failure will surely destroy some of these companies. JRPG weren't doing well, and I don't even blame MS for the demise of JRPG game companies. That's the companies' fault for being stupid. Thus, I blame Mistwalker for their demise, that's their fault.

JRPG are going down even faster than before, only DS is a saving grace for the genre. So much that I have no chance of ever playing every JRPG I WANT to play on it. The DS showed that it's good enough to produce the JRPG of old. Now, a console JRPG has to be sth that can't me made on a DS to succeed. Just graphics is not enough.
Graphics never were the selling point of JRPG, I still wonder how people could be fooled in believing that. So graphics alone won't make a successful JRPG. The HD consoles being sold mainly on graphics, I'm not surprised JRPG fail on them. I'm part of the people that feel FFXIII will be a relative flop on PS3 BTW.


See FF7-12.

Aside from that i assume it's because JRPGs are one genre where people mostly perfer the same kind of gameplay that's been around since the NES. Nice turn based, throw in a few tricks but nothing to fancy combat. Put it in a fantasy setting, and you have to save the world.

The only things that have drastically changed in them is the graphics.

People are trying to copy FF's success not realizing that it isn't it's graphics that do it. It was just that FF was at the right place at the right time.

Gamers seemed to became more interested in the storylines and characters of JRPGs around the time FFVII came out

 



 

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Alby_da_Wolf on 14 June 2008
bluster said:
Kasz216 said:
Riot Of The Blood said:
lmao @ the 360 being the RPG king. It doesn't even have 10 solid jrpg's.

While Wii and PS3 don't even have 1...

"In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is King."


hahahahahahaha

 

Good one Kasz, you are completely right in that.

"En tierra de ciegos, el tuerto es rey"

I didnt know this vow one was known worlwide


Because they come from a latin medieval proverb, "Beati monoculi in terra caecorum". In Italy we often use the latin original, but lot of the regional derivatives are equal to the english and spanish ones.

 



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Strategyking92 on 14 June 2008

@ ookaze

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ZenfoldorVGI on 14 June 2008
brute said:

the 360 clearly has the best rpg line-up,released and upcoming

but why isnt it doing good in japan

is it cause most of the japanese dont buy products not made by them(like with cars)

or maybe the name?the look?what do you think it is?


Because the console isn't made in Japan, and Japan is all about tradition and patriotism.

 

Also, its a case of them coming to the console too late to spur interest. If say, these games were released in Japan before the PS3 or Wii came out, you might have seen better sales. 



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