"I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, 'for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

Evolution via computers; http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/exploringtheuniverse/borg.html

The end result is something that virtually no human could dream up. If something could work soo well in a simulated environment via simple change, what makes it impossible that the same couldn't happen in the real world over millions of years?

I will just jump into the middle of this....

Raised Christian.
Wife's family is Muslim (Palestinian).

Shortly after turning 18 I began to research beliefs and figure out what makes sense to me. This is the attitude I wish all people did instead of blindly following someone else's ideas, but that is another topic all together.

First off I made a few conclusions that I though of as more logical.
1. Existence and life are too complex to be caused solely by a series of randomization and chances. Therefor I believe in a God.

2. If there is a God, it would not be constrained to anything. The ability to create everything must conclude that God is everything and is absolute without limitations.

3. Therefore God would never be human or any other figure / viewable / solid entity.

This automatically cut out a lot of belief systems.

I began reading a lot of materail including my original major at the University of Theology since I am very interested in Theology. I have read and studied:
- KJV Bible
- Catholic Bible
- NRSV Bible (Best one in my opinion)
- TaNaKh
- Quran
- Hindu Vedas
- Various writings of Buddah
- Various writings and books of religious works not accepted by above groups like the Gospel of Judas, etc.
- Studied history of religion classes from many viewpoints.

This lead me to have full scepticism in all organized religions for a few years. Until I read the Quran. This answered nearly all of my ideas and and for the next 6 years I was a fully practicing Muslim. This was greatly applauded by my wife's family and she too agreed with my overall conclusions. However, I never fully agreed with some of the interpretations by the Muslim mass. Example, No where does the Quran state women should be fully covered in any form. Just the private areas, same as men.

However I always told myself that if I found issues with the Quran itself, such as human tampering, then I would not hold Islam as the only chioce. The about 2 years ago in my continued studies and reevaluation I began to see things at a higher level than any religious work detailed. One common theme could be seen in all of these teachings that made it all that more clearer and a much more sense. None of them were 100% perfect or the 'only' path.

Pretty much my belief in God can be characterized in one passage of the Quran.

"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in The God and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve." Q-002.062

Basically anyone who believes in God, the Day of Judgement, and is a good person will get rewared by God. The implys that no specific path or organized religion is required. I still consider myself Muslim by definition. "One who submits to the will of God".

I actually went down a similar path in my life... granted no wife or kids nor any conversions but when I ran into a similar passage I realized something very important

"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in The God and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no FEAR for them, nor shall they grieve."

What got me is that ultimately everything boiled down to fear and pleasure... Just emotions. There was no logic at all nor was there any attempt to explain anything in a way that our minds can understand yet god created us with this mind in a 3d world with the constraint of time and many other laws. Why do all that only to then say that you shouldnt use any of it to decide and just believe blindly? Well if we arent supposed to use it and have blind faith then how can we discern which faith we should have except for our own subjective emotions? It almost sounds like whoever wrote the passage was afraid of something and/or (the most likely scenario) trying to control people very much like politicians.

Lets get back to emotions for a second. Emotions are a very strong thing and make you do things that you otherwise would not do somewhat like riding a roller coaster and knowing that you will be safe yet still gaining the anxiety and fear reflex for no reason. It is not heavenly intervention that we feal, it simple animal instinct for self preservation and I think that we misunderstand those signals as something else when it comes to things like religion (since we arent sitting on a roller coaster). When someone comes to you and says "repent or you will be struck down and burn in eternal flames" how can you not get emotional one way or another? This guy is talking about putting you in pain for eternity, something that no one wants. So we start a chain of emotional talk that eventually leads to seeking a God to help us avoid pain and death out of fear for those things. Our belief is then reinforced by pleasures and rewards and all you have to do is follow the religions morals and ethics but you were already doing that to begin with (people are usually attracted to religions that match their own own ethics... what a surprise when they join and find that they are very similar lol).

I do because I am afraid or I do because its pleasurable... This is how lesser intelligent forms of life behave and here I always thought that humans are supposed to be a little smarter than that. If we as humans can learn ethics and morals on our own without religion naturally by living among each other, then if you take away fear and pleasure from religion, what do you have left to make any religion unique be it Judiestic or otherwise? Even if God existed, what the point to organized religion at all except for maybe helping teach things we should already know like ethics and morality and scaring those who do not follow?

 "Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in The God and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve." Q-002.062

Certainly that means anyone else is a bad person right? Counting only the followers of christianity, judaism, and islam leaves a fair amount of the population of earth. How evil a person must be to tell everyone else, "sorry, you're going to hell," actually, you can't even be sorry. Despite the fact that in US prisons 70+% of them are religious just like the 70+% of the US,  atheists make less than a percent in these prisons and make up many times that in the US.

 "I began reading a lot of materail including my original major at the University of Theology since I am very interested in Theology. I have read and studied:
- KJV Bible
- Catholic Bible
- NRSV Bible (Best one in my opinion)
- TaNaKh
- Quran
- Hindu Vedas
- Various writings of Buddah
- Various writings and books of religious works not accepted by above groups like the Gospel of Judas, etc.
- Studied history of religion classes from many viewpoints."

But have you ever read anything that matters? Something that is real and useful? Something about math, science or history? Something you can use? Obviously a religious person would save lives - but they don't, doctors do - doctors who actually know things. You say the "best one in my opinion" but aren't they all written by god? Shouldn't they all be the same? Unless a different god wrote them all. As you read this, you will begin making rationalizations.

Why is there suffering in the world? If it is wrong to torture, why would god let it happen?

Why do the marriages of atheists have high success rates, higher than religious people? Certainly they'd be doomed.

Why doesn't god heal amputees?

 You're quoting from your own book to prove the vailidity of it?

 Religious people have faith in MAN not in GOD.

What makes your belief more real than the belief in any extinct god?

 You can have all the faith in gods and fairies and magic water and heaven and the afterlife.. but I bet you look both ways when you cross the street.

 The bottom line is this: Either the bible was written by god, or it wasn't.

People claim that they get their morality the bible, but the bible is immoral - it is your brain that tells you which parts are immoral.

You know, Muhammad did not practice islam, and Jesus was not a christian.

"We shall tell ourselves that it would be very nice if there were a God who created the world and was a benevolent providence and if there were a moral order in the universe and an afterlife, but it is a very striking fact that all this is exactly as we are bound to wish it to be."

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."

"Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom too?"

I am a Christian, thus I believe in God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.

My reasons for believing in God are more scientific than the reasons people use to believe in existence without God. In order for anything to be Scientific it must lend itself to Scientific Method, most of the theories used to disprove God/ Intelligent Design fly in the face of what is proven by observable Science.

Scientific Method: 1st) Create a theory or hypothesis. 2nd) Set- up a controlled experiment in order to test that theory. 3rd) Then the findings of that experiment must be able to be recreated by your peers.

There is a Law that says something can't come from nothing. We know that the universe had a beginning and is not self-substaining. The Laws of Thermodynamics, The nature of Suns turning hydrogen into heavier elements disprove the occilating universe theory.
Many other theories exist one that says there are infinite amount of universes and this is one that happened to have created life. Why do people even bother with this theory if everything is so cut and dry? If life is so easy? (Why say life came from Mars via meteor? Which is a theory visited on 8 to 5 years ago by some NASA scientist).

Scientist say that in the first Picco- second (the time it takes for light to span the with of a human hair) of the Big Bang (the Beginning) set the stage for whether or not the universe could sustain life or not. ----
From that comes expanding universe theory/ String Theory/ Floating Membrane Theory all of these theories ( and versions built off those theories) created to explain the reason why it seems "the universe" purposefully intended to create life from its beginning.
As a scientist you can never put your full weight on a theory, how can you? If you believe something that isn't true then you are not being scientific, if you believe something that hasn't been proven you are not being scientific- but you are putting your Faith in Science or Scientist. If you put your faith in a theory then you put your faith in a philosophy or an opinion, but if you put your faith in a Law of Science then your Faith will be proven true. I never doubt whether or not gravity works 1) because I have seen it work all of the days of my life and 2) (if I was this much of a lemming) because it is a Law of Science. 3) Other people have told me about it.
With this in mind, please note that I know so many people that believe in a God (even if not Christian). Many claim to have witnessed or experienced this Creator or God. Since the dawn of Man we have worship a God- why do so many dismiss God as old wise tales when so many people say that they have seen him working in some way or some form? Is mankind just insane?
Do you know that in almost every world religion there is story that Mimics Adam and Eve, there is a story that Mimics Noah and the flood- why do you think that is? Is it because of a "common delusion rooted in mankinds psyche" or is it because there is something to it? When you call in eye witnesses you get different accounts that vary in details. In the justice system we don't throw out all of the evidence of a murder case if all of the witnesses can not agree on the time or the color clothes the man was wearing at the time of a murder- do we?
If I am insane I am so because of the Scientific Method: Scientific Method: 1st) Create a theory or hypothesis. 2nd) Set- up a controlled experiment in order to test that theory. 3rd) Then the findings of that experiment must be able to be recreated by your peers.

I have done all of these things and I have found that there is a God. Have I seen or touched God? Yes in the same way Scientist have seen nuetrons, I see the effects. Have you seen Microwaves come from that box you have in your kitchen? How do you know that they haven't lied to you? Are Microwaves real? No, you have seen the effects thus you are a believer. Men didn't use to be able to see atoms, or cells but now we can. In the same way, I did not use to be able to see God but now I can. Why, because I checked out the ground work of these Jewish Scientist that claimed to be writing under the influence of this God and that lead me on a trail and path to finding Him and experiencing Him.
If my research methods sound strange, then note, that they are no more difficult or stranger than what early scientist thought of making or using a microscope... or making a super-conductor... I mean why do I need a tool, if everything is supposed to be smellable, seeable, touchable, and tastable? But we know better.
Take sometime out in your life and humbly call out to God to reveal himself to you (and no I do not mean that God will make your life perfect, that is erroneous, but he will make it meaningful). Call out to "nothing" or God and say, "If you are real show yourself to me." Then read one of the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John GET AND NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION IF YOU WANT IT IN MORE PLAIN ENGLISH) and ask, this God, about it. If you feel silly, don't it is only a test. Don't expect miracles, although it may happen, but look for Him--- usually He will speak to you in a way that is significant and personal to you and respond to what is revealed to learn more.

If you don't search then you are going against the evidence of billions who have (since the dawn of time), but how can you go against something you have not disproved? The only way to disprove it is by recreating the experiment and observing the results. And in any experiment you must be objective and humble to the truth, or rather TRUTH.



Ja Mata!

On your answer to #1 the word ignorant , well I do not appreciate, good christains, would not get upset.

Sarcasm tends to be the recourse of a weak mind.

You say that well educated people believe what others tell them? I resent that, I have a PhD in Physics as well as other accelerated accomplishments. I won't get into what I have done in my day. I will say this, on top of everything else I am an ordained minister. I do not shove religion upon anyone. I try and educate as many people as possible. I heal as many people as possible and try and be very kind to other people.

I even volunteer part time and help recovering drug addicts not only kick the habits but help with youth. It sickens me when people come to rehab and say, i have lived a life of sin, I am glad I found my lord and savior Jesus Christ. Christ got me off this, etc etc. I am not saying do not pray, however I do not like it when christians see someone down on their luck and they try and suck em in, because they know through normal conversations they couldnt convert them. It is also the same group of people(christains) who judge so many people more than Judge Judy(Don't like the sarcasm do you?)and are happy with it. Christians always say, oh don't hang around that person they arent christain???Why wait til someone falls flat on their face to help them?? Christian means to be Christ like, and I do not see anyone being Christ like, just a huge group of people that go to sleep around , do drugs cheat, steal, and go to church to feel better about themselves. Kind alike Catholics, a couple hail mary's and you are good to go. Our god is forgiving, but I choose to be nice to everyone.

You should not give your 2 cents into this discussion if you have not studied theology, history or archeology or even physics. I will even teach you how to pray the correct way. I feel you need help, Just by reading your contradictions I have to ask, Has something traumatic happened to you? Have you blamed something based on who you are? I would love for you to come to one of my spiritual meditation groups. I will teach you how to open/communicate with your sub conscious mind. I feel you may need it. Or at least help you find who you are. the difference between my spiritual meditations is that i do not ask anyone for tithing, I refuse. I am very altrustic and would give the shirt off my back for someone. I might be christianed ordained, but I do not teach but a small part from the bible and all other religions, i teach how all have the same meanings and all have the same beginings, i teach how to understand and what they mean in the original languages they were written. I go over history of the world, being destroyed more than once. Different races, Giants etc. etc.

Ok Rick,I am neutral on this site to everyone, although you are entitled to your opinion, you wont be able to convert anyone to your religion, just as i wont convert people to mine.

Here is a small Section

Genesis revisited, meanings: In Hebrew, our word for god is Elohim. Elohim, does not translate to god, but “Those who came from the sky”

Here is help understanding the Bible

In the Bible you will find traces about the truth about your past. These truths have been distorted by successive transcribers who could not conceive of such high technology and could therefore only explain what was described as being mystical and supernatural force. I will give you some translations In which I have acquired, and I will post some links at the very end.

This means scientists made reconnaissance flights and what you call artificial satellites were set up upon the earth to study atmosphere. The earth was covered by water and a thick mist at the time.

What this means is that to create life it was important to see if the sun was sending harmful UV rays to the surface. It turned out the Sun was heating the earth correctly , so ……….the light was good!

This research took some time. The “day” mentioned here corresponds to the period in which your sun rises under the same sign on the day of the vernal equinox, in other words, about 2000years.

450,000 years ago,
On Nibiru, a distant member of our solar system, life faces slow extinction as the planet's atmosphere erodes. Deposed by Anu, the ruler Alalu escapes in a spaceship and finds refuge on Earth. He discovers that Earth has gold that can be used to protect Nibiru's atmosphere.

445,000
Led by Enki, a son of Anu, the Anunnaki land on Earth, establish Eridu -Earth Station I - for extracting gold from the waters of the Persian Gulf.

430,000
Earth's climate mellows. More Anunnaki arrive on Earth, among them Enki's half-sister Ninhursag, Chief Medical Officer.

416,000
As gold production falters, Anu arrives on Earth with Enlil, the heir apparent. It is decided to obtain the vital gold by mining it in southern Africa. Drawing lots, Enlil wins command of Earth Mission; Enki is relegated to Africa. On departing Earth, Anu is challenged by Alalu's grandson.

400,000
Seven functional settlements in southern Mesopotamia include a Spaceport (Sippar), Mission Control Center (Nippur), a metallurgical center (Shuruppak). The ores arrive by ships from Africa; the refined metal is sent aloft to orbiters manned by Igigi, then transferred to spaceships arriving periodically from Nibiru.

380,000
Gaining the support of the Igigi, Alalu's grandson attempts to seize mastery over Earth. The Enlilites win the War of the Olden Gods.

300,000
The Anunnaki toiling in the gold mines mutiny. Enki and Ninhursag create Primitive Workers through genetic manipulation of Ape woman; they take over the manual chores of the Anunnaki. Enlil raids the mines, brings the Primitive Workers to the Edin in Mesopotamia. Given the ability to procreate, Homo Sapiens begins to multiply.

200,000
Life on Earth regresses during a new glacial period.

100,000
Climate warms again. The Anunnaki (the biblical Nefilim), to Enlil's growing annoyance marry the daughters of Man.

75,000
The "accursation of Earth" - a new Ice Age-begins. Regressive types of Man roam the Earth . Cro-Magnon man survives.

49,000
Enki and Ninhursag elevate humans of Anunnaki parentage to rule in Shuruppak. Enlil, enraged. plots Mankind's demise.

13,000
Realizing that the passage of Nibiru in Earth's proximity will trigger an immense tidal wave, Enlil makes the Anunnaki swear to keep the impending calamity a secret from Mankind.

11,000 B.C.
Enki breaks the oath, instructs Ziusudra/Noah to build a submersible ship. The Deluge sweeps over the Earth; the Anunnaki witness the total destruction from their orbiting spacecraft.

Enlil agrees to grant the remnants of Mankind implements and seeds; agriculture begins in the highlands. Enki domesticates animals.

10,500 B.C.
The descendants of Noah are allotted three regions. Ninurta, Enlil's foremost son, dams the mountains and drains the rivers to make Mesopotamia habitable; Enki reclaims the Nile valley. The Sinai peninsula is retained by the Anunnaki for a post-Diluvial spaceport; a control center is established on Mount Moriah (the future Jerusalem).

9,780 B.C.
Ra/Marduk, Enki's firstborn son, divides dominion over Egypt between Osiris and Seth.

9,330 B.C.
Seth seizes and dismembers Osiris, assumes sole rule over the Nile Valley.

8,970 B.C.
Horus avenges his father Osiris by launching the First Pyramid War. Seth escapes to Asia, seizes the Sinai peninsula and Canaan.

8,670 B.C.
Opposed to the resulting control of all the space facilities by Enki's descendants, the Enlilites launch the Second Pyramid War. The victorious Ninurta empties the Great Pyramid of its equipment.

Ninhursag, half-sister of Enki and Enlil, convenes peace conference. The division of Earth is reaffirmed. Rule over Egypt transferred from the Ra/Marduk dynasty to that of Thoth. Heliopolis built as a substitute Beacon City.

8,500 B.C.
The Anunnaki establish outposts at the gateway to the space facilities; Jericho is one of them.

7,400 B.C.
As the era of peace continues, the Anunnaki grant Mankind new advances; the Neolithic period begins. Demi-gods rule over Egypt.

3,800 B.C.
Urban civilization begins in Sumer as the Anunnaki reestablish there the Olden Cities, beginning with Eridu and Nippur.

Anu comes to Earth for a pageantful visit. A new city, Uruk (Erech), is built in his honor; he makes its temple the abode of his beloved granddaughter Inanna/lshtar.

3,760
Mankind granted kingship. Kish is first capital under the aegis of Ninurta. The alendar begun at Nippur. Civilization blossoms out in Sumer (the First Region).

3,450
Primacy in Sumer transferred to Nannar/Sin. Marduk proclaims Babylon "Gateway of the Gods." The "Tower of Babel" incident. The Anunnaki confuseMankind's languages.

His coup frustrated, Marduk/Ra returns to Egypt, deposes Thoth, seizes his younger brother Dumuzi who had betrothed Inanna. Dumuzi accidentally killed; Marduk imprisoned alive in the Great Pyramid. Freed through an emergency shaft, he goes into exile.

3,100-3, 350
years of chaos end with installation of first Egyptian Pharaoh in Memphis.Civilization comes to the Second Region.

2,900
Kingship in Sumer transferred to Erech. Inanna given dominion over the Third Region; the Indus Valley Civilization begins.

2,650
Sumer's royal capital shifts about. Kingship deteriorates. Enlil loses patience with the unruly human multitudes.

2,371
Inanna falls in love with Sharru-Kin (Sargon). He establishes new capital city. Agade (Akkad). Akkadian empire launched.

2,316
Aiming to rule the four regions, Sargon removes sacred soil from Babylon. The Marduk-Inanna conflict flares up again. It ends when Nergal, Marduk's brother, journeys from south Africa to Babylon and persuades Marduk to leave Mesopotamia.

2,291
Naram-Sin ascends the throne of Akkad. Directed by the warlike Inanna, he penetrates the Sinai peninsula, invades Egypt.

2,255
Inanna usurps the power in Mesopotamia; Naram-Sin defies Nippur. The Great Anunnaki obliterate Agade. Inanna escapes. Sumer and Akkad occupied by foreign troops loyal to Enlil and Ninurta.

2,220
Sumerian civilization rises to new heights under enlightened rulers of Lagash. Thoth helps its king Gudea build a ziggurat-temple for Ninurta.

2,193
Terah, Abraham's father, born in Nippur into a priestly-royal family.

2,180
Egypt divided; followers of Ra/Marduk retain the south; Pharaohs opposed to him gain the throne of lower Egypt.

2,130
As Enlil and Ninurta are increasingly away, central authority also deteriorates in Mesopotamia. Inanna's attempts to regain the kingship for Erech does not last.

B.C 2,123
Abraham born in Nippur.

2,113
Enlil entrusts the Lands of Shem to Nannar; Ur declared capital of new empire. Ur- Nammmu ascends throne, is named Protector of Nippur. A Nippurian priest-Terah, Abraham's father - comes to Ur to liaison with its royal court.

2,096
Ur-Nammu dies in battle. The people consider his untimely death a betrayal by Anu and Enlil. Terah departs with his family for Harran.

2,095
Shulgi ascends the throne of Ur, strengthens imperial ties. As empire thrives, Shulgi falls under charms of Inanna, becomes her lover. Grants Larsa to Elamites in exchange for serving as his Foreign Legion.

2,080
Theban princes loyal to Ra/Marduk press northward under Mentuhotep I. Nabu, Marduk's son, gains adherents for his father in Western Asia.

2,055
On Nannar's orders, Shulgi sends Elamite troops to suppress unrest in Canaanite cities. Elamites reach the gateway to the Sinai peninsula and its Spaceport.

2,048
Shulgi dies. Marduk moves to the Land of the Hittites. Abraham ordered to southern Canaan with an elite corps of cavalrymen.

2,047
Amar-Sin (the biblical Amraphel) becomes king of Ur. Abraham goes to Egypt, stays five years, then returns with more troops.

2,041
Guided by Inanna, Amar-Sin forms a coalition of Kings of the East, launches military expedition to Canaan and the Sinai. Its leader is the Elamite Khedor-la'omer. Abraham blocks the advance at the gateway to the Spaceport.

2,038
Shu-Sin replaces Amar-Sin on throne of Ur as the empire disintegrates.

2,029
Ibbi-Sin replaces Shu-Sin. The western provinces increasingly to Marduk.

2,024
Leading his followers, Marduk marches on Sumer, enthrones himself in Babylon. Fighting spreads to central Mesopotamia. Nippur's Holy of Holies is defiled. Enlil demands punishment for Marduk and Nabu; Enki opposes, but his son Nergal sides with Enlil.

As Nabu marshals his Canaanite followers to capture the Spaceport, the Great Anunnaki approve of the use of nuclear weapons. Nergal and Ninurta destroy the Spaceport and the errant Canaanite cities.

2,023
The winds carry the radioactive cloud to Sumer. People die a terrible death, animals perish, the water is poisoned, the soil becomes barren. Sumer and its great civilization lie prostrate. Its legacy passes to Abraham's seed as he begets -at age 100- a legitimate heir: Isaac.

Working from the same archaeological discoveries, artifacts, and recovered records as archaeologists and linguists have for two hundred years, Sitchin propounds – proves, in the opinion of this author -- that the Anunnaki (Sumerian: “those who came down from the heavens”; Old testament Hebrew, Anakeim, Nefilim, Elohim; Egyptian: Neter), an advanced civilization from the tenth planet in our solar system, splashed down in the Persian gulf area around 432,000 years ago, colonized the planet, with the purpose of obtaining large quantities of gold. Some 250,000 years ago, the recovered documents tell us, their lower echelon miners rebelled against the conditions in the mines and the Anunnaki directorate decided to create a creature to take their place. Enki, their chief scientist and Ninhursag their chief medical officer, after getting no satisfactory results splicing animal and Homo Erectus genes, merged their Anunnaki genes with that of Homo Erectus and produced us, Homo Sapiens, a genetically bicameral species, for their purposes as slaves. Because we were a hybrid, we could not procreate. The demand for us as workers became greater and we were genetically manipulated to reproduce.

Eventually, we became so numerous that some of us were expelled from the Anunnaki city centers, gradually spreading over the planet. Having become a stable genetic stock and developing more precociously than, perhaps, the Anunnaki had anticipated, the Anunnaki began to be attracted to humans as sexual partners and children were born of these unions. This was unacceptable to the majority of the Anunnaki high council and it was decided to wipe out the human population through a flood that was predictable when Nibiru, the tenth in our solar system and the Anunnaki home planet, came through the inner solar system again (around 12,500 years ago) on one of its periodic 3600 year returns. Some humans were saved by the action of the Anunnaki official, Enki, who was sympathetic to the humans he had originally genetically created. For thousands of years, we were their slaves, their workers, their servants, and their soldiers in their political battles among themselves. The Anunnaki used us in the construction of their palaces (we retroproject the religious notion of temple on these now), their cities, their mining and refining complexes and their astronomical installations on all the continents. They expanded from Mesopotamia to Egypt to India to South and Central America and the stamp of their presence can be found in the farthest reaches of the planet.

Around 6000 years ago, they, probably realizing that they were going to phase off the planet, began, gradually, to bring humans to independence. Sumer, a human civilization, amazing in its “sudden”, mature, and highly advanced character was set up under their tutelage in Mesopotamia. Human kings were inaugurated as go-betweens, foremen of the human populations answering to the Anunnaki. A strain of humans, genetically enhanced with more Anunnaki genes, a bloodline of rulers in a tradition of “servants of the people” was initiated (Gardner). These designated humans were taught technology, mathematics, astronomy, advanced crafts and the ways of advanced civilized society (in schools, called now “mystery schools” but there was no mystery about them). Gardner has brought to light the fact that there exists a robust, highly documented, genealogical, genetic history carrying all the way back to the Anunnaki, possessed by the heterodox tradition of Christianity, which is only now coming forward, no longer gun-shy of the Inquisition. This tradition, preserving the bloodline, is the one branded “heretical” and murderously persecuted by the Roman Church. There were no Dark Ages for this tradition, only for those whom the Church wanted to keep in the dark about the real nature of human history and destroy the bloodline, a direct threat to the power of the Bishops.

What evidence supports the Sitchin thesis?

“...no concrete problem is going to be solved as long as the experts of astronomy are too supercilious to touch "mythical" ideas -- which are firmly believed to be plain nonsense, of course -- as long as historians of religion swear to it that stars and planets were smuggled into originally "healthy" fertility cults and naive fairy tales only "very late" -- whence these unhealthy subjects should be neglected by principle -- and as long as the philologists imagine that familiarity with grammar replaces that scientific knowledge which they lack, and dislike.”

Giorgio de Santillana, Ph.D.& Hertha von Dechend, Ph.D.

Hamlet's Mill

A key underpinning of the Sitchin paradigm is the existence, now or in the past, of the tenth planet in our solar system, the home planet of the Anunnaki with the size, orbit, and characteristics described, as Sitchin has demonstrated, in the Enuma Elish and corroborated by Harrington, former chief of the U.S. Naval Observatory, now deceased.

Tombaugh discovered Pluto in 1930. Christie, of the U.S. Naval Observatory, discovered Charon, Pluto’s moon, in 1978. The characteristics of Pluto derivable from the nature of Charon demonstrated that there must still be a large planet undiscovered because Pluto could not be the cause of the residuals, the “wobbles” in the orbital paths of Uranus and Neptune clearly identifiable. The IRAS (Infrared Astronomical Satellite), during ’83 -’84, produced observations of a tenth planet so robust that one of the astronomers on the project said that “all that remains is to name it” -- from which point the information has become curiously guarded. In 1992 Harrington and Van Flandern of the Naval Observatory, working with all the information they had at hand, published their findings and opinion that there is, indeed, a tenth planet, even calling it an “intruder” planet. The search was narrowed to the southern skies, below the ecliptic. Harrington invited Sitchin, having read his book and translations of the Enuma Elish, to a meeting at his office and they correlated the current findings with the ancient records.

The recovered Enuma Elish document, a history of the formation of our solar system and more, says that, at the time when Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Uranus and Saturn were in place, there was a Uranus sized planet, called Tiamat, in orbit between Mars and Jupiter. Earth was not in place yet. A large wandering planet, called Nibiru, was captured into the system gravitationally. As it passed by the outer planets it caused the anomalies of their moons, the tilting of Uranus on its side, the dislodging of Pluto from its being a moon of Saturn to its own planetary orbit. Its path bent by the gravitational pull of the large planets, first its satellites collided with the large planet Tiamat and, on a second orbit through, Nibiru collided with Tiamat, driving the larger part of it into what is now Earth’s orbit to recongeal as Earth, dragging its moon with it to become our Moon with all its anomalies. The shattered debris of Tiamat’s smaller part became the asteroid belt, comets, and meteorites. The gouge of our Pacific basin is awesome testimony to the collisional event. Nibiru settled into a 3600 year elliptical retrograde (opposite direction to all the other planets) orbit around our sun, coming in through the asteroid belt region between Mars and Jupiter at perigee and swinging far out past Pluto at apogee. Harrington acknowledged that his information agreed with all these details and the maps they each had drawn of the orbits were almost indistinguishable. The current probable location of Nibiru (Planet X, our tenth) estimated by both was the same.

It is the opinion of this author and others that, in light of the evidence already obtained through the use of the Pioneer 10 and 11 and two Voyager space craft, the Infrared Imaging Satellite (IRAS, ‘83-84) and the clear and unequivocal statements of Harrington when consulting with Sitchin, that the search has already been accomplished, in fact that the planet has already been found.

We need to force the issue of the tenth planet being in our solar system, not just to demonstrate the validity of the new paradigm but for a very practical reason. The ancient records are very clear. The passage of the tenth planet, Nibiru, once every 3600 years, through the inner solar system effects the Earth, sometimes in catastrophic ways. It is very probably the cause of pole shifts, pole reversals, changes in the precessional movement, perhaps even catastrophic bombardment by asteroid size space debris that it may drag along with it. Since it passes through the asteroid belt area between Mars and Jupiter and its orbital path may vary depending on the position of the other planets when it comes though, it may have been responsible for the devastation of Mars. A rigorous, detailed computer modeling of the solar system, including the tenth planet needs to be done urgently for our own planetary safety. Remember that the Vatican maintains an astronomical observatory and Msgr. Balducci may have access to information that

Proof from the Catholic church http://sitchin.com/vatican.htm

prompts him to make the amazing statements he has ---- no doubt as voice of the Vatican.

Ooparts is the term used to describe the purportedly out of place in time artifacts, toys, tools, technical devices, depictions and documents which have come to light through archaeological excavation or discovery. Almost everyone is familiar, through published works or documentaries, with the clay pot batteries still containing the electrodes from the Iraqi desert dated at 2500 B.C., the flyable model airplane from a pyramid tomb, the sophisticated machining of stone requiring the most advanced techniques we know today, the 1000 ton precision cut blocks of stone in a temple foundation that we could not even handle, an ancient relief frieze from an Abydos temple depicting rockets, airplanes and even a helicopter, etc. The most recent and quite amazing oopart is the rediscovery of monoatomic gold by David Hudson (Monoatomics are superconductors at room temperature, have anti-gravitic properties and are only now being investigated by the advanced physics community) Hudson’s discovery, correlated with the bringing to light, by Gardner, of the suppressed discovery of the Anunnaki gold processing plant on Mt. Horeb by Sir Flinders Petrie in 1889 demonstrates that the monoatomics were already known at least 3000 years ago. These ooparts coupled with evidence from many disciplines and the historical records indicate that an advanced civilization existed in those times possessing a high technology and that that civilization was indeed the Anunnaki.

The recorded historical documentation for the existence and deeds of the Anunnaki has become gradually available to us only since the early 1800’s. The excavation of the ancient sites of Mesopotamia brought to light the amazingly advanced civilization of Sumer and, with it, thousands of clay tablets containing not only mundane records of commerce, marriages, military actions and advanced astronomical calculation systems but of the history of the Anunnaki themselves. It is clear from those records that the Sumerians knew these aliens to be real flesh and blood. The library of the ruler, Ashurbanipal, at Nineveh was discovered to have burnt down and the clay tablets held there were fired, preserving them for our reading. One of the most impressive finds, in very recent time, has been a sealed, nine foot by six foot room in Sippar holding, neatly arranged on shelves, a set of some 400 elaborate clay tablets containing an unbroken record of the history of those ancient times, a sort of time capsule. The evidence is so overwhelming and robust that, if it weren’t for those with power enough to suppress, it would have been accepted and our world view changed a century ago or, perhaps, sooner.

The recovered records place the location of the Anunnaki laboratory where the first humans were literally produced in east central Africa just above their gold mines. This falls precisely on the map where the mitochondrial DNA “search for Eve” places the first woman Homo Sapiens and in the same period. (The gold mining engineers of Africa have found 100,000-year-old gold mines in that area.) The evidence for, and description of advanced genetic engineering is all there in the ancient documents. Our rapid progress from inception to going to Mars soon, after only 250,000 years, does not correspond to the million year periodicities of slow evolutionary development of other species such as Homo Erectus before us. As so many thinkers have pointed out, we are radically and anomalously different, as discussed in part three.

How could the Anunnaki, clearly described as comfortable in earth gravity and atmosphere, very similar to current humans in all ways, have evolved on a planet within our solar system whose orbital apogee takes it into the deep cold of space for much of its orbit?

The ancient records repeatedly describe Nibiru as a “radiant” planet. This may be understood as having a high core temperature. Although controversial, there is also astrophysical opinion that a large body in elongated orbit is constantly tending toward circular orbit and this causes stresses in the body that could generate a good deal of heat. That their planet is gradually cooling, may be indicated by Sitchin’s interpretation of their colonizing Earth (contains most of the gold identifiable in the solar system) for the purpose of obtaining large quantities of gold for molecular seeding of their atmosphere with a reflective gold shielding. Pertinent here is Harrington’s confident statement to Sitchin that it is “a nice, good planet, could be surrounded by gases, probably has an atmosphere and could support life like ours”. The sunlight level there might be quite different than on earth. The Anunnaki were often depicted or sculpted with what seem to be obviously sunglasses.

If, however, the Anunnaki evolved on a radically different planet from earth under quite different conditions to which to adapt, why should they have turned out to be so identical to human species? Sitchin’s answer is based on the collisional event between the intruder planet, Nibiru, and the planet Tiamat, the residual part of which recongealed into the Earth after being driven into current Earth orbit. That the two, or at least one, of the colliding planets was sufficiently developed to have evolved basic organic compounds, perhaps even simple life, the cross-seeding of everything from amino acids to more complicated organic compounds or even primitive organisms, could account for the evolutionary similarity. Although this author finds it a reasonable hypothesis, even trivial, that advanced civilizations would be capable of crossing extremely different genomes, perhaps with even radically different bases, the cross-seeding theory can account for the apparent relative ease with which the Anunnaki impinged their genes on the genes of Homo Erectus. The Anunnaki skill level, 200,000 years ago, is indicated well by the recorded fact that, in early trials, they succeeded in crossing animal genes with Homo Erectus genes, obtained living hybrids but never a satisfactory product which led them to modify Homo Erectus genes with their advanced genes.

If our genome is estimated as 98% to 99% similar to the chimpanzee, how could there be a melding of the Homo Erectus and Anunnaki genomes, or impingement of the advanced code on the lesser advanced one detectable? The author suggests that this is a major question probably answerable only by the geneticists open-minded enough to attack it. The resolution of that question should provide rich additional clues in itself.

 Except the article wasn't about adapting computers :(