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dpmnymkrprez on 05 June 2007
mrstickball said:
Most of the DVD issues were fixed quite some time ago. I got a refurb (from my 1st one dying after 1 and 1/2 years), and the DVD is better/quieter.

If you want one, either save cash and wait for the price drop, or buy a cheap-o refurb from geeks.com for like $325 + free shipping.

Trust me, with H3 and GTAIV, MS WILL drop the price to keep in some sort of competition with Nintendo.

So the refurbed prob have been fixed?



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mrstickball on 05 June 2007

For the most part, yes. The DVD drives have been swapped out with the new(er) ones, and the saudering has been re-fixed.

IMO, they're not going to be the "OMG PERFECT" solution for the 360, as the reason the 360 die at all is constant driver upgrades to the GPU, making it pump out more power, causing the unit to overheat, and mess the sauder up.

The Refurbs have re-enforced sauder (I do believe). The 65nm should totally fix the issue. However, next to either a uber-new 360, your best bet is a refurb if you want something now. Basically, a refurb has all new parts in the 360 shell except for the ultra-costly components that won't fail (CPU, GPU, HDD, Ram).

Again, a refurb will save you $75+, allow you to buy one right now, and be save you from some worries about the failure rate.

IMO, even though I do admit mine died a month or two ago, I fully expected it do with everything I had done to it. I plugged/unplugged it and transported it to various places dozens of times, clocked 1000+ hrs on Oblivion, had 80+ games with tons of driver updates on it, and of course, played the horrible Superman Returns (which killed it). The units are far better than launch.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

dpmnymkrprez on 05 June 2007
mrstickball said:
For the most part, yes. The DVD drives have been swapped out with the new(er) ones, and the saudering has been re-fixed.

IMO, they're not going to be the "OMG PERFECT" solution for the 360, as the reason the 360 die at all is constant driver upgrades to the GPU, making it pump out more power, causing the unit to overheat, and mess the sauder up.

The Refurbs have re-enforced sauder (I do believe). The 65nm should totally fix the issue. However, next to either a uber-new 360, your best bet is a refurb if you want something now. Basically, a refurb has all new parts in the 360 shell except for the ultra-costly components that won't fail (CPU, GPU, HDD, Ram).

Again, a refurb will save you $75+, allow you to buy one right now, and be save you from some worries about the failure rate.

IMO, even though I do admit mine died a month or two ago, I fully expected it do with everything I had done to it. I plugged/unplugged it and transported it to various places dozens of times, clocked 1000+ hrs on Oblivion, had 80+ games with tons of driver updates on it, and of course, played the horrible Superman Returns (which killed it). The units are far better than launch.

So did you go through 2? or just one refurbed?



mrstickball on 05 June 2007

I started on a launch 360 that went from 11/22/2005 to 3/21/2007

I got my new one from MS (for free, mind you) on 4/1/2007 and it's the only one I've had since then, and works better than the launch one.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

ckmlb on 05 June 2007

It's as loud as the other versions and it still scratches CDs.

And no most Japanese will still not buy a 360 but will save for PS3s if they are thinking of getting a non Wii console...



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kn on 05 June 2007
ckmlb said:
It's as loud as the other versions and it still scratches CDs.

And no most Japanese will still not buy a 360 but will save for PS3s if they are thinking of getting a non Wii console...

 And I bought one anyway.



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Systems I currently own:  360, PS3, Wii, DS Lite (2)
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dpmnymkrprez on 05 June 2007

I dont really mind the noise, I want one, but dont want to take it in for repair, and hoping i dont get a bad aple so to speak.....I need to decide! I am getting one either way, I am impatient and hope i dont let the patience get in the way with a good decision



dpmnymkrprez on 05 June 2007

I definately appreciate all the 360 input from all of you



ckmlb on 05 June 2007
kn said:
ckmlb said:
It's as loud as the other versions and it still scratches CDs.

And no most Japanese will still not buy a 360 but will save for PS3s if they are thinking of getting a non Wii console...

And I bought one anyway.


 Uh, grats?



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dpmnymkrprez on 05 June 2007
ckmlb said:
It's as loud as the other versions and it still scratches CDs.

And no most Japanese will still not buy a 360 but will save for PS3s if they are thinking of getting a non Wii console...

you may be right, after all the ps3 is out selling the 360!