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Gamefaqs is there...it's basically GameSpot which is affiliated with MetaCritic.  So they all come from the same barn...so does that make MetaCritic good then.

I don't think the mods are bias towards Nintendo...but the majority of posters in this forum are definitely pro Nintendo than any other brand.

I don't spend my energy crying about the PSP or PS3...I just like to read some non anti-Sony views most of the time.  I can see a game looks good or bad or plays good or bad no matter what platform it is on.  I love my PSP, if that means I am pro-Sony, then be it.  But I am certainly not anti-Nintendo.

There just seems to be so many posters in here that are so pro-Nintendo and anti-Sony it's unbelievable.  It's maybe because of all the hurt caused by the success of the PSOne and PS2 and they no feel the tide has turned and they can abuse anyone interested in the PSP or PS3.

Also, this post was meant as an example to all those people that have all things Nintendo floating around their heads that the PSP and the PS3 does have some good games (in the case of the PSP, quite alot) and that although their loved Wii's or Ds's are selling like hotcakes.  It doesn't mean that all their games are brilliant.  And in fact, when it comes to it...it's actually a small amount of them that are actually worth buying at all. 



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Gamefaqs isn't Gamespot, and don't act like calling them the same makes it so.

Call the Wii and DSs games whatever you want but don't ever try and disguise it as anything more than your own opinion. And popular opinion, is not on your side I'm afraid. Relying on reviewers is the last act of someone desperate to justify their choices.

As you can see there are plenty of supporters on my behalf that reviews are a worthless endeavor to begin with and only complicated when you mix in a majority of Sony/Graphical biased reviewers.



Anti Sony maybe anti PS3 no.

I hate arrogance and Sony's computer game department seems to have pkenty of that...and who doesn't like to see an arrogant person brought down to size!



I don't know Metacritics very well, but when I watch the scores and see that Motorstorm Jap WITHOUT the online mode get a better score than Motorstorm WITH the online mode, I know that their ranking system is just worthless.

Furthermore, I'll add that out of the 20 "best rated PS3 games", I see 4 exclusive PS3 games (including a demo -seriously they RATED A DEMO ?- and PSN game).

On Wii, 7-8 out of the 11 best rated games are exclusive.

Can make a slight difference...



davygee said:

I posted this elsewhere, but thought it required a post to it's own.

This is very interesting and should be read by people continually downing all things Sony.

According to MetaCritic (they include a whole host of reviews and scores to come up with a definitive score for each game).....

The Wii has 11 games in the green (75% and above)

The PS3 has 21 games in the green (75% or above)

This is very interesting....the PS3 has the better games that the Wii then?

Oh and this.....

The DS has 57 games in the green (75% or above)

The PSP has 86 games in the green (75% or above)

So the PSP has better games than the DS then?


That has no bearing on sales or commercial success, though. Reviews be damned, at the end of the day what separates the Wii and DS are that they offer more unique game play experiences that consumers have never enjoyed before, and they're simply more intuitive and user friendly.

I have been buying, playing, enjoying, and collecting home consoles since the 70s. If there is one thing I know, that has been repeated time and time again, it's that consumers only care about three things: Price. Reliability. Ease of Use.

Everything else is just message board fodder, today. The "best" technology or the tech with the "best" gaming library rarely wins out in the end. Really, that argument has never worked in any avenue of consumer tech, and I've got the 8-tracks, Beta cassettes, MCA DiscoVision carts, LaserDiscs, and CDi/3DO MPEG-1 CD-Videos to prove it. Customers want a subtle versatility at a low price, not a jack of all trades, master of none swiss army knife appliance foisted on them. This is why a simple device like the iPod can show up about five years late to the portable music player party and promptly kick the tar out of every single competitor, many of them well entrenched and technologically superior under-the-hood in virtually every single regard (like the Rio, Nomad, and Archos).

In that vein, where the PS3 and PSP (and even the 360) fall short is not in their gaming library or their versatility, but in the daunting complexity of all they can do, which competes directly against each other, plus the hobbyist driven HTPC market, and PCs themselves, while frightening off the average consumer. The PlayStation 3 and PSP have many very, very solid titles that have been commercially popular and critically successful, but please, I've had my fill of auto racing, first/third person shooters, and I've already got 15 other copies of Madden (each visually more stunning than the last -- but where does it end?).

"Hard core" gamers (I loathe that term, but everyone knows what it means), audiophiles, and videophiles do not support their respective markets. Joe 6-pack does.

The deep, dark resentment of Sony console fans, which they've never wrapped their heads around, is that people didn't buy 100M PS2s to watch DVDs, listen to music, or play Grand Tourismo, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear and a prettier Madden. What sold the PS2 were Joe 6-pack friendly pick-up-and-play sim games like DDR, Guitar Hero, and SingStar. When those games hit the market and the PS2 was slim downed and relaunched for under $200, that's when the PS2 really became the ubiquitous giant it is today.

All those games are available for every platform now, and there's really nothing exclusive about any racing sim, RPG, or shoot'em up centered around WWII scenarios or space marines once you think about it. The names of those games change and the graphics get prettier each successive year, but we've all played them before.

This is why people perceive the PSP and PS3 lineups to be bad. Of course the games themselves aren't bad, per se, but nothing in that shiny PS3 case at my local brick-and-mortar is worth spending over $700 to play, either. 

Lastly, the single greatest issue that I think people fail to take into account is the natural generational divide and the aging of the marketplace. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, the "MTV Generation" is all grown up and has money to burn. The significance here is that today's 30-somethings with the wads of disposable cash all have one thing in common -- they grew up on Nintendo. The generation behind them, the so-called "Generation Y," which grew up on Sony's platforms does not have the general purchasing power (yet), but more importantly, does not have that same sense of brand loyalty.

This is the distinguishing characteristic that has decided this console war so far. Nintendo has produced a cheap console that not only appeals to the same core of gamers that launched Nintendo-mania in the 80s, but that cores' parents as well -- the Baby Boomers.

Sony has produced a console targeted squarely at the market segment least equipped to afford it, the technophiles of Generation Y.

Sadly, quality of games really has nothing to do with it. 



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The Wii also has the most games rated below 50% on any of the next-gen consoles.

But of course these games are all amazingly fun, all critics are usless, forum posters know more then critics, and your average gamer will give a Wii game a better score then any professional reviewer.

bleh...it's just pointless talking to Wii fanboys.



 

Gballzack said:
Gamefaqs isn't Gamespot, and don't act like calling them the same makes it so.

Call the Wii and DSs games whatever you want but don't ever try and disguise it as anything more than your own opinion. And popular opinion, is not on your side I'm afraid. Relying on reviewers is the last act of someone desperate to justify their choices.

As you can see there are plenty of supporters on my behalf that reviews are a worthless endeavor to begin with and only complicated when you mix in a majority of Sony/Graphical biased reviewers.

... GameFaqs is OWNED by GameSpot...

 

 

 

these forums are full.. of morons....  



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Dallinor said:
The Wii also has the most games rated below 50% on any of the next-gen consoles.

But of course these games are all amazingly fun, all critics are usless, forum posters know more then critics, and your average gamer will give a Wii game a better score then any professional reviewer.

bleh...it's just pointless talking to Wii fanboys.

What actually makes a 'professional reviewer' ?

I've looked and looked and in amongst the articles about  A levels, university degrees and 7 years of training to be a  doctor I cannot see anywhere:

 WANTED: Person wanted to sit on arse playing computer games all day. Must be semi literate and consider themselves a professional even though all they are doing is getting paid for doing what many unemployed do all day.

Anyone of us can be a reviewer it takes virtually no talent, only an opinion.

 



Not everyone is a fanboy, some of us have merits to our reasons.

Coming from a 40+ game PS2 library here, I can't help but be seriously disappointed in the PS3's current and upcoming library, it's not carrying practically anything I would enjoy playing. I couldn't even justify purchasing the PS3 if it was $200 right now, it's not offering me anything I'm interested in now or for the foreseeable future.

I will admit, yes, i do enjoy Nintendo's own franchise games, I enjoy their themes and their gameplay. But on the Wii alone I am also interested in MySims, Soul Calibur Legends, FFCC : Crystal Bearers, One Piece, and a large assortment of Nintendo's 1st party titles. My Gamecube collection is at 25, by the way.

I bought the Wii because
A) I can afford it easily enough
B) Launched with several games I wanted
C) More games I wanted within it's first year

The PS3 matches none of those criteria, why should I even consider it?



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llewdebkram said:
Dallinor said:
The Wii also has the most games rated below 50% on any of the next-gen consoles.

But of course these games are all amazingly fun, all critics are usless, forum posters know more then critics, and your average gamer will give a Wii game a better score then any professional reviewer.

bleh...it's just pointless talking to Wii fanboys.

What actually makes a 'professional reviewer' ?

I've looked and looked and in amongst the articles about A levels, university degrees and 7 years of training to be a doctor I cannot see anywhere:

WANTED: Person wanted to sit on arse playing computer games all day. Must be semi literate and consider themselves a professional even though all they are doing is getting paid for doing what many unemployed do all day.

Anyone of us can be a reviewer it takes virtually no talent, only an opinion.

 


 you fail at research...

IGN's Requirements are a B.S. to M.S. degree in journalism at least. 



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