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shanbcn on 23 May 2008

Shams,
How can 50GB game come to xbox360? There is only so much they can downgrade it and i doubt Konami will even bother with it knowing what happened to MGS2 in XB.



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Kasz216 on 23 May 2008
shanbcn said:
Shams,
How can 50GB game come to xbox360? There is only so much they can downgrade it and i doubt Konami will even bother with it knowing what happened to MGS2 in XB.

It's 25 GB... and that's with uncompressed Audio.

Compress is with a lossless technique and you've got most of your work done for you.

Is Metal Gear Online going to be on the same disc as well?  If so... move that to a second Disc... and your probably done.



shanbcn on 23 May 2008
Kasz216 said:
shanbcn said:
Shams,
How can 50GB game come to xbox360? There is only so much they can downgrade it and i doubt Konami will even bother with it knowing what happened to MGS2 in XB.

It's 25 GB... and that's with uncompressed Audio.

Compress is with a lossless technique and you've got most of your work done for you.

Is Metal Gear Online going to be on the same disc as well? If so... move that to a second Disc... and your probably done.


 You are so wrong its not even funny. The disck is 50GB and will include one language and without uncompressed Audio. Yes there is no uncompressed audio and this was confirmed by Konami recently. Even 25GB mean 4 dvds.



Viper1 on 23 May 2008
shanbcn said:
Kasz216 said:
shanbcn said:
Shams,
How can 50GB game come to xbox360? There is only so much they can downgrade it and i doubt Konami will even bother with it knowing what happened to MGS2 in XB.

It's 25 GB... and that's with uncompressed Audio.

Compress is with a lossless technique and you've got most of your work done for you.

Is Metal Gear Online going to be on the same disc as well? If so... move that to a second Disc... and your probably done.


 You are so wrong its not even funny. The disck is 50GB and will include one language and without uncompressed Audio. Yes there is no uncompressed audio and this was confirmed by Konami recently. Even 25GB mean 4 dvds.


I have yet to read this.  Do you mind linking me?



The rEVOLution is not being televised

shanbcn on 23 May 2008
Viper1 said:
shanbcn said:
Kasz216 said:
shanbcn said:
Shams,
How can 50GB game come to xbox360? There is only so much they can downgrade it and i doubt Konami will even bother with it knowing what happened to MGS2 in XB.

It's 25 GB... and that's with uncompressed Audio.

Compress is with a lossless technique and you've got most of your work done for you.

Is Metal Gear Online going to be on the same disc as well? If so... move that to a second Disc... and your probably done.


You are so wrong its not even funny. The disck is 50GB and will include one language and without uncompressed Audio. Yes there is no uncompressed audio and this was confirmed by Konami recently. Even 25GB mean 4 dvds.


I have yet to read this. Do you mind linking me?

 

  "We were challenged to make MGS4 in high definition graphics and 5.1ch surround sound"

 see they don't mention 7.1 uncompressed audio. This was only posible on 100gb blu-rays which are not availe yet.

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6190827.html

  



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Viper1 on 23 May 2008
shanbcn said:
Viper1 said:
shanbcn said:
Kasz216 said:
shanbcn said:
Shams,
How can 50GB game come to xbox360? There is only so much they can downgrade it and i doubt Konami will even bother with it knowing what happened to MGS2 in XB.

It's 25 GB... and that's with uncompressed Audio.

Compress is with a lossless technique and you've got most of your work done for you.

Is Metal Gear Online going to be on the same disc as well? If so... move that to a second Disc... and your probably done.


You are so wrong its not even funny. The disck is 50GB and will include one language and without uncompressed Audio. Yes there is no uncompressed audio and this was confirmed by Konami recently. Even 25GB mean 4 dvds.


I have yet to read this. Do you mind linking me?

 

  "We were challenged to make MGS4 in high definition graphics and 5.1ch surround sound"

 see they don't mention 7.1 uncompressed audio. This was only posible on 100gb blu-rays which are not availe yet.

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6190827.html

 

Shan, uncompressed audio doesn't have to be in 7.1.

 

Uncompressed has no relation to the channel output.

 



The rEVOLution is not being televised

shanbcn on 23 May 2008
Viper1 said:
shanbcn said:
Viper1 said:
shanbcn said:
Kasz216 said:
shanbcn said:
Shams,
How can 50GB game come to xbox360? There is only so much they can downgrade it and i doubt Konami will even bother with it knowing what happened to MGS2 in XB.

It's 25 GB... and that's with uncompressed Audio.

Compress is with a lossless technique and you've got most of your work done for you.

Is Metal Gear Online going to be on the same disc as well? If so... move that to a second Disc... and your probably done.


You are so wrong its not even funny. The disck is 50GB and will include one language and without uncompressed Audio. Yes there is no uncompressed audio and this was confirmed by Konami recently. Even 25GB mean 4 dvds.


I have yet to read this. Do you mind linking me?

 

"We were challenged to make MGS4 in high definition graphics and 5.1ch surround sound"

see they don't mention 7.1 uncompressed audio. This was only posible on 100gb blu-rays which are not availe yet.

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6190827.html

 

Shan, uncompressed audio doesn't have to be in 7.1.

 

Uncompressed has no relation to the channel output.

 


Well 9 hours of uncompressed audio mean betmeen 20-25 GB of worth data, which is just not possible.



johnsobas on 23 May 2008
Kasz216 said:
johnsobas said:
kaz, this isn't wii fit. If they don't get big first week sales for MGS the game isn't going to sell that many copies. Games like MGS just don't have legs in Japan, and no PS3 game has proved to had any legs at all besides HGS (although it had way better legs on PS2) but even those are dull compared to many Wii games.

This is the Japan where you buy the game first day, and sell it back when you are finished. Even if they underestimate demand used copies will eat up sales quickly.

Don't normally have legs. If preorder supply is lower then demand however it will have "forced" legs.

As for the selling back games after you are finished. If that's the case i may be wrong. I've never heard anything like that however.

Guess that would explain why RPG Re-release do so well over there.


take a look at the sales of the FF6 remake on DS in Japan, it has a huge first week but it was severely supply constrained. New games were nowhere to be found, used sales ate up nearly all the sales for second week, then when it came back in stock the sales didn't really rise to pick up the extra demand because used copies had exhausted the excess demand.

If you weren't aware that Japan sells games you should know that it is extremely common to buy games on day 1 and sell them as soon as you are finished, they don't have game rental places in Japan so this is kind of like a "rental." They even do the same thing with systems, they buy the system and a few games and sell it back when they finish.

 Many people were reporting used copies of Crisis Core to be found in many places the SAME DAY it was released.  



currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X

johnsobas on 24 May 2008

also i see no reason to assume this is consumer data. I can't remember 1 time when we got even a small piece of consumer preorders from Japan, but i can remember 1,000 cases when we got retail preorders.



currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X

superbeast1370 on 24 May 2008
HappySqurriel said:

Metal Gear Solid has never been the amazing selling series people think it is ...

 


MGS1 - 6 million

MGS2 - 7 million

MGS3 - 5 million