All I was trying to say is that the Hype machine of games such as Resistance (which we don't know how it will like) is gonna cost Bioshock (which doesn't need hype cause we all know EXACTLY how it looks like, and it looks like one of the greatest games of this generation)  big time . And unfortunately that is the plain truth. (As for Resistance, you can replace the title with any other pre-over-hyped game that will be released this time of the year)

And why exactly am I not respectful? To whom?

since when was too many shooters a bad thing?

am i a retard here?

I also wonder how all those PS3 fans that put down Bioshock will feel now.

Killzone 2 will be poor, doesn't matter when it is released.

First up, do you really believe, other than going on the word of the developer in the interview (the same that said KZ1 would be awesome) that this game will have a "level" that takes an hour to complete. That's nonsense, perhaps a string of levels under the banner of a "chapter", but forcing the player to sit there for at least an hour is insane and will not be taken well by gamers (they may play for hours, but they want the option to opt out whenever).

Also, what part of this game is unique:

Cover system: Yep they combined what Gears perfected and what CoD's been doing for years (leaning behind walls/cover) by doing a cover system that locks you onto a piece of cover while still being in First person. HIGHLY original.

Grey post-apocalyptic world: Not even going to touch that one.

First person: Being able to fire from the hip AND down the scope. WOAH that's never been done before!

Generic Sci-fi story: Holy crap two warring factions! and you get to play as JUST ONE PERSON in this game!?! oh wait, Masterchief was one person? (and even then Halo's story was taken from multiple places)

Enemies: I've only seen two types thus far, bland generic grunt soldiers and big daddy imitations with machine guns (and alot less cooler). If there are actually any more, it only goes to show how bland and predictable these soldiers are.

Please people, graphics doesn't equal good game, so stop looking at the video's of KZ2 and labelling this as a AAA title. If you were actually paying attention to the video's, you'd notice that the enemy AI is so stupid that they don't even react to being shot at, also highly original in games.

KZ2 was delayed because:

1) Needed more time to develop to fix up things critcised in previews

2) They don't want to compete against Gears 2 and Resistance 2.

 No, the difference is CoD4 was on your love machine, and KZ2 is only on the PS3.

If KZ2 was exclusive to the 360, you would be whacking off to every screenshot you could find. Every 360 exclusive you love, and every PS3 exclusive you take issue with.

Hell, even MGS4, a game you can't find a reason to bash, you bash it's market.

Why don't you just stick to the 360 forums, and let people who actually care about the PS3 talk about it.

This weeding though your negative bullshit every time I want to discuss something about the PS3 is getting fucking old. 

Ahh, another thread where everyone states that KZ will be utter crap based on... mostly nothing, really. I think I should start counting them and start a thread where we can really have a go and see who can complain the most about unreleased games!

Mummelmann said: Ahh, another thread where everyone states that KZ will be utter crap based on... mostly nothing, really. I think I should start counting them and start a thread where we can really have a go and see who can complain the most about unreleased games!

Well we have nothing to prove the opposite either...

Well until I play a game, all I ever have to go on is what other people say. Most of them who has sat in front of KZ2 and played it, have left with a positive experience.

As for the AI, yea, it sucks. They are in the process of outsourcing a developer to work in the AI (probably a contributing reason why it's delayed).

As for a unique game, let's not kid ourselves. When FPS's are what we are talking about, eye-candy is what's important. Your fooling yourself if you think visuals are secondary in this genre.

Graphics is what has driven FPS's from day one. There has been very little new in the genre for 15 years. The first UT is basically the same experience as Halo 3. You run around and shoot people. It's hard to advance a basic concept. Bioshock has been praised as one of the best ever at it, and at its core, it's no different then doom. It just looks a hell of a lot better.

KZ tries with very long levels (that I assume you can save at any point), stunning visuals, a ton of environment effects going on in the background, no hud, mission objectives through NPC interaction, and incorporating every "fun" element from other FPS's.

Weather it makes it good or not, that combination is unique.