i believe bioshock will come to ps3. gears i don't know, with Unreal Tournament 3 seems to me that gears is past.

Right, because my take on the game isn't congruent with yours, I know nothing about it.

Amazing.

 There's no burly men in this game, unless you count Big Daddies.  I understand your complaint towards Gears, but cmon, Bioshock is not a typical FPS.

 the point isnt for it to be scary.  that is the atmosphere of the game, just because thats how the game is doesnt mean its the point.  the point of the game is to get to ur goal through a special way.  u can bring other enemies into the fray to kill the main one.  its not about being an fps that makes it awesome, its the ai.

You're trying to be funny, right?  'Cause I know you're not trying to take away from the scariness of Resident Evil 1 or 2 or Silent Hill 2, right?

Fine, whatever.

Yeah, third person games can be scary too...but being in first person is one way of immersing the player in the game...

And, no, AI is not all that makes an FPS.  It is a strong point, just as it is in any other videogame.  It's definitely a selling point for this game though, I'll give you that.

I'm sick of arguing about whether or not Bioshock is a great game.  I'm sick of this shit.

Bioshock is going to be the winningest game of 2007

 ai is not what makes any genre.  but it does make or break this game along with the fps parts.  im not argueing whether fps or tps is more immersive either, since it just depends on the game.  im not even argueing whether it'll be great, cuz i assume it will be.  all im saying is a third person view would give more control over what happens.  and since it is about the interesting ai it would be way cooler to be able to control like 3 or 4 fights at once, have them merge and be super awesome.

In my opinion, putting the game in 3rd person perspective would ruin the atmosphere.

As that ship or whatever SMASHES into the the pedestrian tube, water pours in everywhere...you have to walk into the plane and then back down into the hallway again, as water pours all around you. It'd take away so much if it was in 3rd person.

im not talking about the game itself. im talking about the main focal point of why this game is special. that is the ai, not the atmosphere or anything else. being third person would allow you to focus on more things, which would show off the ai better.