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what happened to platforming? this game looks awful now, the driving doesn't even look entertaining, cool art style at least



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ZenfoldorVGI said:
disolitude said:
BenKenobi88 said:
Ari_Gold said:
The_vagabond7 said:
....That is....terrible. So much potential wasted...they turned one of the best platformers of the N64 generation into a Twisted metal/GTA/mariokart game. I was so frikkin pumped for this, and now I have lost about 90% of my interest in it. What the hell was that?

The end is just sad too. It reeks of the old Crash Bandicoot commercials. Many have come and tried to dethrone Mario, and all have failed and turned into 3rd rate stars (crash, spyro, Sonic). Looking at this video, I don't think Mario has much competition.

 


 


Yeah, they should have done what nintendo does. Remake the same game over and over and upgrade graphics and backgrounds... Shame on you Rare for trying something different.

I personally didn't care much for Banjo before but now this looks like a must play as it looks like it won't be the same 3D platformer we've all been playing since Mario 64.


See, why do you have to flame Nintendo because you are insecure about how Banjo looks?

I'm sick of these silly arguments that attempt to marginalize Nintendo games by claiming that they are all remakes of something from the N64. Have you even played Wii sports, Radiant Dawn, Pikmin 2, Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Brawl, Metroid Prime or Super Paper Mario? These games are modern classics, and you attempt to marginalize them, and Nintendo who also happens to be the most consistantly good developers in the world.

....while you praise Rare in the same paragraph.

You sicken me with your comments, I don't care how they were goaded out of you.

Who knows if this game is great, or sucks? It's certainly not inspiring confidence with that trailer, I don't care how you spin it, but to praise Rare for "at least trying something different" is damage control of the highest order. You are basically admitting that it looks bad, but at least it's different.

I don't care, I woulda never bought this either way. If you want this genre of game that badly and you don't own a Wii, your a fanboy, broke, or biased.

When you flame Nintendo after you look at a trailer for a platformer for Xbox, it's like your getting the damage control out of the way before its even confirmed that this might be a AA game at best(who knows really, but that's what your obviously thinking).

 

I'm sorry if this offends banjo fans, I own a 360, but I just don't like people flaming other games and consoles in an attempt to justify their own.


Oo la la...a personal attack...

Its interesting you bring up "Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Brawl, Metroid Prime or Super Paper Mario" as I've played them all.

Here is how I feel about Twilight princess...first post.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=26542&start=0

Mario Galaxy a rehash in my eyes but a good one.

Brawl is completely a rehash with a fun one player quest.

Metroid prime 3 a rehash with new control scheme.

Super paper mario is the best game out of all...I liked that one.

I still stand in saying Nintendo is the king of re-releases with upgraded graphics and tweeked gameplay. You forgot Mario Kart Wii...

In any case, Im done posting here as it will become a personal attacks topic. Banjo 3 looks cool. Looks like it may have a great online multiplayer, inventive gameplay and will look better than any platformer in recent memory apart from R&C.

For anyone that doesn't like change...sorry. I was pissed when Sonic went 3D too...but I got over it. When the game gets good reviews, you may change your minds as well.



The vehicle editor reminded me of the Kingdom Hearts gummie bear editor



disolitude said:
BrainBoxLtd said:
DonWii said:
I'm not saying it won't be good.
I'm just saying it doesn't look like what Banjo fans were looking for.

 Yeah, that's what kind of rubs me the wrong way. It's looks very interesting, but it doesn't seem like it really has all that much to do with Banjo-Kazooie. Like you can replace all the BK characters and it wouldn't really matter. Artstyle seems more rigid now, maybe to flow better with the dominant vehicle theme. Just seems like if this what they've been doing maybe it shouldn't have been called Banjo-Threeie. Just a thought.


Did Resident Evil 4 turn out so bad...after it pissed on everything Resident Evil games were about?


 Don't recall me saying this looks bad, just different. And there were people upset with Resident Evil 4's change in direction as well, albeit I wasn't one of them mainly because after over a dozen games between all the remakes and spin-offs I had found the Resident Evil series had become very stale. Banjo-Kazooie has only had four games in the last ten years excluding this one. One of which was a lack luster in-between-quel for the GBA and another was a racing spin-off, also for the GBA. So there would seem to be less demand to shake things up.



Uhm could rare or microsoft get sued because of the mario sign?



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I loved the N64 Banjo games and I was really hoping this one will exceed what the previous games offered.

It's.... very different from I was expecting and even thoug the features look very promising, it feels that is way off from what the good old Banjo games were. It takles many interesting concepts but it may not be what us fans wanted.

It's the first trailer and more in game demos are required to actually judge the game... but is not what it used to be :(



Impressive. I played the N64 games when I was a kid. I am very excied for this game



disolitude said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
disolitude said:
BenKenobi88 said:
Ari_Gold said:
The_vagabond7 said:
....That is....terrible. So much potential wasted...they turned one of the best platformers of the N64 generation into a Twisted metal/GTA/mariokart game. I was so frikkin pumped for this, and now I have lost about 90% of my interest in it. What the hell was that?

The end is just sad too. It reeks of the old Crash Bandicoot commercials. Many have come and tried to dethrone Mario, and all have failed and turned into 3rd rate stars (crash, spyro, Sonic). Looking at this video, I don't think Mario has much competition.

 


 


Yeah, they should have done what nintendo does. Remake the same game over and over and upgrade graphics and backgrounds... Shame on you Rare for trying something different.

I personally didn't care much for Banjo before but now this looks like a must play as it looks like it won't be the same 3D platformer we've all been playing since Mario 64.


See, why do you have to flame Nintendo because you are insecure about how Banjo looks?

I'm sick of these silly arguments that attempt to marginalize Nintendo games by claiming that they are all remakes of something from the N64. Have you even played Wii sports, Radiant Dawn, Pikmin 2, Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Brawl, Metroid Prime or Super Paper Mario? These games are modern classics, and you attempt to marginalize them, and Nintendo who also happens to be the most consistantly good developers in the world.

....while you praise Rare in the same paragraph.

You sicken me with your comments, I don't care how they were goaded out of you.

Who knows if this game is great, or sucks? It's certainly not inspiring confidence with that trailer, I don't care how you spin it, but to praise Rare for "at least trying something different" is damage control of the highest order. You are basically admitting that it looks bad, but at least it's different.

I don't care, I woulda never bought this either way. If you want this genre of game that badly and you don't own a Wii, your a fanboy, broke, or biased.

When you flame Nintendo after you look at a trailer for a platformer for Xbox, it's like your getting the damage control out of the way before its even confirmed that this might be a AA game at best(who knows really, but that's what your obviously thinking).

 

I'm sorry if this offends banjo fans, I own a 360, but I just don't like people flaming other games and consoles in an attempt to justify their own.


Oo la la...a personal attack...

Its interesting you bring up "Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Brawl, Metroid Prime or Super Paper Mario" as I've played them all.

Here is how I feel about Twilight princess...first post.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=26542&start=0

Mario Galaxy a rehash in my eyes but a good one.

Brawl is completely a rehash with a fun one player quest.

Metroid prime 3 a rehash with new control scheme.

Super paper mario is the best game out of all...I liked that one.

I still stand in saying Nintendo is the king of re-releases with upgraded graphics and tweeked gameplay. You forgot Mario Kart Wii...

In any case, Im done posting here as it will become a personal attacks topic. Banjo 3 looks cool. Looks like it may have a great online multiplayer, inventive gameplay and will look better than any platformer in recent memory apart from R&C.

For anyone that doesn't like change...sorry. I was pissed when Sonic went 3D too...but I got over it. When the game gets good reviews, you may change your minds as well.


 Yea and GTA4 is a rehash of 3, MGS4 is a rehash of 3, COD4 is a rehash of every other shooter in existance, Guitar hero is the same damn thing, the list could go on forever.  

Your examples are horrendous, first Resident Evil 4 and now Sonic?  These are natural, obvious progressions for the genre.  Mario or Sonic becoming a 3d platformers is obvious, Resident Evil dropping its flawed pre-rendered backround system with bad controls and terrible camera is an obvious progression for the genre.  

Banjo building, racing, and blowing up vehicles is not a damn natural progression.  It's not even the same fucking genre, not even close.  You aren't improving the platformer, you're simply not making a platformer anymore.  

The platformer could use a good game much more than the racing, flying, blowing up vehicles genre could.  This game has a new style, but it's not all that different from all the other games that 360 fans have been playing.  This isn't innovating as much as it is conforming. 



currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X

As a concept is interesting, as a sequel of two good plataformers is horrible... the game could en up been good, but most of us want a good old Banjo plataformer...



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This game looks horrible. Definitely not buying it. Thanks Microsoft. You've ruined on of my favorite game series'.



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