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kingofwale said: Next week, you will probably see Wii back to their bi-monthly low, while PS360 will be around over 100K again.

Bi-monthly low? You mean bi-weekly?

I do think it's getting better, the Wii sales dips won't be as low as before.



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Nullified is the key word. Nintendo have done a great job. Wait till when NPD hits, and everyone was (hoping?) for 360 or PS3 (or combined) to defeat Wii. Guess what - they won't.

WiiFit is the megaton, and its just around the corner...



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GTA was never going to defeat the wii. Just like halo 3 was never going too. What GTA 4 has done is show developers that games continue to sell stupid amounts on ps360 and moved more hardware. I was expecting nothing more nothing less.



shams said:
Nullified is the key word. Nintendo have done a great job. Wait till when NPD hits, and everyone was (hoping?) for 360 or PS3 (or combined) to defeat Wii. Guess what - they won't.

WiiFit is the megaton, and its just around the corner...
Actually I was hoping GTA IV to create miracle, both of them to have 400,000 and above.....However, gta4 FAIL to amaze me.. & I believe no game would have the ability to do that in the future....

 



Poor PS3 Sales Means Smaller Losses

"Actually, because the number of units sold was not as high as we hoped, the loss was better than our original expectation," Quotes from Sony’s CFO Nobuyuki Oneda.

this shows how worthless the anti-Wii threads have been......



Wii console: 0595 8808 5698 2709
Super Smash Bros Brawl: 1161 1357 5188

Mario Kart Wii: 1633 4506 4319

PES 2008: 1633 5820 0347

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Pokemon Battle Revolution: 3480 2645 9186
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kingofwale said:
 

When are we going to stop judging Wii's hardware sales as if it's some kind of consumer buying trend? I remember last week it was at 69K in NA and behind BOTH PS3 and 360, I don't remember anybody saying it was doomed? Wii will sell, at that price-point, almost as many as they can ship. The fact Nintendo shipped that many is no coincident. They wanted to push Mario Kart Wii, sell hardware AND kill off hypes of GTAIV.

 

So far.. they are only 1/3.

Mario Kart got WHIPPED by both GTAIV versions. (lost)
Wii sold as many as they can ship (won)
GTAIV hype is bigger than ever (lost)

 

Next week, you will probably see Wii back to their bi-monthly low, while PS360 will be around over 100K again.

 

So, GTAIV escapes total humiliation by beating MKWii's opening week, and now your bragging about it?

What if the data was off slighly and MKWii beat the PS3 version of GTA? Does that mean sony lost?

Also, since the Wii can sell as many units as it can ship and Sony or MS can't, the Wii certainly won. So, who lost on that one? Sony and Microsoft?

Finally, how do you know the GTAIV hype is as big as it could have been? You don't. Maybe if there were no Wii's last week or no MK:Wii, more people would have bought GTAIV? I bought both games, so certainly there is a criss cross audience for those games.

 

I find it ironic that when Wii gets good news you always have to jump in with your deductions based on the logic that the PS3 must've really won somehow, it's just that nobody understands the facts as well as I do, so I'll explain it to them. The PS3 really won! You just don't understand how to read the numbers.

 

 

Fact: The Wii outsold Xbox 360 + PS3 + 100,000ish units this week in NA.

Fact: Mario Kart Wii came dangerously close to matching GTAIV on the PS3 in NA.

 

 

If you believe those are out of context or whatever, then by all means, explain to me how the Wii "lost" anything.

Tell me about how the Wii cheated. I mean, that's what your really telling us right? That it cheated?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Nothing can stop the Wii now.  Mario kart Wii the Wii's biggest selling game was released in the same week as GTA IV, strong contiuing sales from SSBB also contributed. Shortage of the Wii one week in NA and a truckload of Wii's sold the next week.



Who says Mario Kart Wii is the best selling game on Wii? For first week, it gets smashed by Smash, and overall, it is likely to be much lower than Wii Fit, so please elaborate, why is MKWii the biggest?



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

macross said:
kingofwale said:
macross said:
kingofwale said:
Easy there... You think Rockstar cares about defeating Wii?

*T2 looks up the chats*
GTAIV sold 1.3 million on a console with under 5 million installbase. While MarioKart sold 1.2 million on a console with over 11 million installbase.

You think T2 will say "Oh damnit, we failed"????

Nintendo purposefully held back consoles last week. I don't remember anybody saying last week that PS360 defeated Wii in US.. why should there be a difference this week?

 

I mean hardware, both of the console doesn't sell so well compare to Wii....

Remember what did the PR of both Sony & M$ said, they were preparing for GTA IV... and now what?

They were creating more console, so they should sell more....

They have lower user base, it means that they have more opportunity to be purchased... they should sell more..

T2 shouldn't care it, Sony & M$ should...

You know what, I really think that people grap a Wii when they bought GTA IV, look at the attachment rate of SMG and SSBB.......


When are we going to stop judging Wii's hardware sales as if it's some kind of consumer buying trend? I remember last week it was at 69K in NA and behind BOTH PS3 and 360, I don't remember anybody saying it was doomed? Wii will sell, at that price-point, almost as many as they can ship. The fact Nintendo shipped that many is no coincident. They wanted to push Mario Kart Wii, sell hardware AND kill off hypes of GTAIV.

 

So far.. they are only 1/3.

Mario Kart got WHIPPED by both GTAIV versions. (lost)
Wii sold as many as they can ship (won)
GTAIV hype is bigger than ever (lost)

 

Next week, you will probably see Wii back to their bi-monthly low, while PS360 will be around over 100K again.

 


I am not bashing Wii......I am bashing Sony & M$, M'kay? Because of what? Because they don't put their effort enough...stockpilling for GTA IV was just bullshit.....

& I've talked about the business model also + Recession + some stupid Box office & Gaming sales theory

Nintendo reverse the market, what should Sony & M$ do to cover back the market again?

If Wii continue to win the war, we are going to have more Mario xxx games again and other Never ending franchise, plus more stupid Game Party like game http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=25852&start=0 , they should be equivalent in the market, and it will create competition for making better games.

 

p/s: where is Project HAMMER? If they realease it earlier, maybe we will have it in SSBB

 Nintendo never reversed the market, they just brought over the DS's new gain ownership. Those who loves casual games, people who consider themselves "casual gamer".

I don't understand the whole "stockpilling for GTAIV"... you'd think selling close to 4 million copies as "stockpile", on top of that, having enough console to ensure everyone who walks into the door the change to secure one.

 Funny.. I remember DS is winning handheld war with "more stupid Game Party like games" (to quote you), and yet PSP is still getting its own share of good games. 

 

Let's face it, you can't stop Wii and casual gamer. As long as the trend of crappy mini-games don't come on my console, I could really care less what the library of games look like in consoles I don't own.

 

P.S. I find it funny how anyone could think Mario Kart somehow defeated GTAIV... Is Wii beating PS360? Absolutely, It always have and always will in public demand category. 



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: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)

wii 2,901,918 (+276%) 67,085,856 6.02
ps3 2,109,052 (+238%) 28,668,719 5.88

if you quit sales of wii sport and wii paly -155,393 - 398,710wii sales over 2346000

wii sold more software in the week of launch of gtaiv than ps3
wii is a beast