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Lol funny how all Sony fanboys jumped here.
Wii's library will continue to grow. Who cares about the shovelware, when you know there are great games coming after all. The important part here is that Nintendo actually benefits from all this diversity of games, means more publishers will have a chance to develop good games in the future.
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sc94597 said:
The wii is following the path of the ds. The ds is the hanheld that takes main series from consoles(DQ). Vgchartz has 79 rpgs listed, and I believe thats out of 600 games. Thats almost 1/6 of the ds' games. Now the ds gets FF remakes, and Dragon Quest main series games , because it does the best in japan. Do you know how the 3rd party support on the ds started out as? Casual games, Shovelware,etc.( Same as the wii) After they saw how well it was selling, now look at the 3rd party support. Look at the games of 2008 thread. We are already seeing the start of the 3rd party support on the wii the same as the ds. Do you know what games the wii WILL get rpgs. It won't get Final Fantasy, but it will get rpgs that are better if the declination of the quality of FInal fantasy games continues. My level of hype for Chrystal Crystal bearers is starting to rival that of FFXIII just because of the trailer and how well the ds game was. Now the wii might not get the shooters, but it will get enough shooters. It won't be the platform with 1,00s of generic fps'. @ Op here are 4 rpgs you should look into if you want what SSJ12 says you do. Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The crystal bearers, Tales of Symphonia, and Fragile, Fire Emblem( THis is already out). I could recommend others, but those are the only ones where I believe there is going to be depth in the story. |
I Already SAID that the Wii is like the DS... Look on the 1st page and look for "OMG It has UB3R C00L GRAFFIX P0W3R"
The whole premise of the OPs argument is illogical and pointless. It's like saying "I don't like Samsung televisions because people who own them buy and watch a mostly children's movies." WAAAAAH! I Like R Rated Movies! (obviously this is a theoretical example and I have no idea what samsung TV owners actually watch.)
Just because some crappy 3rd party devs are making shovelware, does not in any way change the fact that there are many good games for the system. PS2 had a very similar percentage of bad to good games, the Wii library will only get better. Stop being a child about this.
Realistically, the one demographic where Nintendo has little or no chance of being successful with the Wii is the 13 to 21 year old male demographic ... This demographic is the most obsessed with both "Mature" content (Drugs, Sex, Violence, Crime and Profanity) as well as meaningless techical performance (computer hardware, sports cars, etc.). While Nintendo has (essentially) abandoned these gamers in favour of the general market, Sony and Microsoft have abandoned the general market in order to attract these gamers.
The original poster fits right into this demographic, and it is not surprising that he doesn't like Nintendo anymore. I expect that he will age, go to college, get a job and a steady girlfriend and his perception of Nintendo will (likely) change when he is in his early to mid 20s.
Yeah, once you have a woman it's Nintendo all the way. My woman's playing Twilight Princess right now, and we're going through Zack and Wiki and some old NES games together.
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| HappySqurriel said: Realistically, the one demographic where Nintendo has little or no chance of being successful with the Wii is the 13 to 21 year old male demographic ... This demographic is the most obsessed with both "Mature" content (Drugs, Sex, Violence, Crime and Profanity) as well as meaningless techical performance (computer hardware, sports cars, etc.). While Nintendo has (essentially) abandoned these gamers in favour of the general market, Sony and Microsoft have abandoned the general market in order to attract these gamers. The original poster fits right into this demographic, and it is not surprising that he doesn't like Nintendo anymore. I expect that he will age, go to college, get a job and a steady girlfriend and his perception of Nintendo will (likely) change when he is in his early to mid 20s. |
This is the sillyest thing I've read in a while. You are categorizing all gamers that prefer ps360 as immature late teen early 20's gamers.
Thats like me saying that all Wii's are purchased by the late 30's/early 40's people and used to entertain guests as its good social fun. And by 9 to 12 year old kids who like teletubby's and saying the words "Wii".
Also about your technical performance analogy...if one can afford a powerful sports car, there is no reason why they'd drive anything else. Most people settle for a ford focus not cause they want to... i'm not saying that Wii is only bought by people who can't afford ps360 but I don't think there is such thing as meanigless technical performance. Otherwise we'd all be stuck in a sea of mediocrity. If you can't see what techncial performance brings to gaming with games like GTA4...then I don't know what else I can say.
disolitude said:
This is the sillyest thing I've read in a while. You are categorizing all gamers that prefer ps360 as immature late teen early 20's gamers. Thats like me saying that all Wii's are purchased by the late 30's/early 40's people and used to entertain guests as its good social fun. And by 9 to 12 year old kids who like teletubby's and saying the words "Wii". Also about your technical performance analogy...if one can afford a powerful sports car, there is no reason why they'd drive anything else. Most people settle for a ford focus not cause they want to... i'm not saying that Wii is only bought by people who can't afford ps360 but I don't think there is such thing as meanigless technical performance. Otherwise we'd all be stuck in a sea of mediocrity. If you can't see what techncial performance brings to gaming with games like GTA4...then I don't know what else I can say. |
Maybe its 'silly' because your reading comprehension is very limited ... I never once suggested that PS3 or Xbox 360 fans were all teenagers! I suggested that teenage boys were far more likely to be fans of the PS3 or XBox 360 (or more appropriately less likely to be fans of the Wii) which is supported by the demographic information which has been gathered for each of the systems; it is also (generally) true that the activities that teenagers see as being immature become more acceptable in their 20's, and the activities they used to see as being Mature become far less acceptable.
Beyond that, I can afford a powerful sports care but don't own one because it is completely impractical and it doesn't suit my needs at all. People quite often choose their ecconomical vehicle because it is a better fit for their lifestyle not because it is the only car they can afford.
HappySqurriel said:
Maybe its 'silly' because your reading comprehension is very limited ... I never once suggested that PS3 or Xbox 360 fans were all teenagers! I suggested that teenage boys were far more likely to be fans of the PS3 or XBox 360 (or more appropriately less likely to be fans of the Wii) which is supported by the demographic information which has been gathered for each of the systems; it is also (generally) true that the activities that teenagers see as being immature become more acceptable in their 20's, and the activities they used to see as being Mature become far less acceptable. Beyond that, I can afford a powerful sports care but don't own one because it is completely impractical and it doesn't suit my needs at all. People quite often choose their ecconomical vehicle because it is a better fit for their lifestyle not because it is the only car they can afford.
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I can't see a dude in his late 20's early 30's thats a gamer coming home from an exhausting day at work and turning on a wii and having mario jump around while yelling "whoopie!". I'd go postal myself... I personally need to unwind by blowing off some steam while blowing off some heads.
In any case if one thinks nintendo is "uncool" and stops playing their system because of that, i think you may be right as that person will pick those games up agian later in life. If they outgrew the box that nintendo makes their games in...that's a diferent story.
| windbane said: yeah, but the Wii is getting a higher percentage of crap than the PS2 did. We just had thread about that. Also, the Wii is getting a lower number of great games. Still, it's not all bad. |
Comparing the early game ratio to an end of the generation ratio is pretty intellectually dishonest.
