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I hope you are not serious windbane.

"The motion control on the Wiimote is the same as the PS3 controller, though."

You are kidding right? The SIXAXIS can only sense tilt on the axes. It has no ability to postion itself in 3-D space. Cam a car move back when the SIXAXIS is 5 feet away from the TV and go foward when 1 foot away? Not tilt, postion. Could that possibly happen? No!

The Wiimote has the ability to sense where it is in 3-D space. If it is moved foward, IT CAN MOVE FORWARD ON SCREEN! THE SIXAXIS CANNOT!

SIXAXIS = Tilt.

Wiimote = IR, Tilt, 3D Space.

SIXAXIS =/= Wiimote.

You really are blinded by fanboyism grasping at straws that don't exist.



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@Viper1

I'd give up on Wimote vs mouse for pointing accuracy. No mater how good you personally feel with the Wiimote is just technically isn't as accurate.

If you take away games and simply used each to test relfexes and time to pinpoint a highlighted area on a screen then on average a mouse is going to leave a Wiimote in the dust.

The Wiimote offers plenty a mouse doesn't for gameplay, but it doesn't offer better accuracy.




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dtewi said:
I hope you are not serious windbane.

"The motion control on the Wiimote is the same as the PS3 controller, though."

You are kidding right? The SIXAXIS can only sense tilt on the axes. It has no ability to postion itself in 3-D space. Cam a car move back when the SIXAXIS is 5 feet away from the TV and go foward when 1 foot away? Not tilt, postion. Could that possibly happen? No!

The Wiimote has the ability to sense where it is in 3-D space. If it is moved foward, IT CAN MOVE FORWARD ON SCREEN! THE SIXAXIS CANNOT!

SIXAXIS = Tilt.

Wiimote = IR, Tilt, 3D Space.

SIXAXIS =/= Wiimote.

You really are blinded by fanboyism grasping at straws that don't exist.


You're sort of right but mostly wrong.

The Wiimote actually knowing how far it is from the TV is just IR. That said, the Wiimote knowing the speed and direction it's moving is handled by an accelerometer combined with the tilt sensors. So yes, the Wiimote can be flung forward and the game will sense it. The PS3 also has an accelerometer, and can also sense when it's being flung and in what direction.

What makes the Wiimote worthwhile is the combination of motion sensing and IR sensing that allows for things like precise movement forward and backwards, but that is an IR function, not motion sensing.



@Naz and Reasonable.

Does for me at least. I can point to any location on my TV with the Wii-mote just as fast as I can with the mouse. Perhaps the accuracy is not an issue with the Wii-mote itself but the skill of the user.

You also have to consider with a monitor and mouse, you are usually no more than 2-3 fee away from the screen but can be much further with a TV and Wii-mote. Try getting 3 feet from your TV and twitch your wrist side to side. You'll move the on screen cursor every bit as fast as you will with a mouse.

The biggest benefit to the mouse is friction. Stopping precisely were you like can be easier with a mouse because of friction against the mouse pad where as the Wii-mote has friction with just air...far less stopping power. Again, this probably comes down to user skill.



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Viper1 said:

@Naz and Reasonable.

Again, this probably comes down to user skill.


I agree, but understand that for me to get from one side of a 2560 resolution screen to the other with a mouse, takes less then an inch (so that's less then half an inch for a normal monitor). So that's 8x less the distance it takes you.

So yes, it comes down to skill ;) 



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Nobody talks about VR gameplay? I always thought what would the future game looks like?

I only answer will only be play it "in" the  game, not outside of it! Is like Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over, but you won't really game over.

Anyone? Matrix like gameplay, play as Neo with superpower and become mortal in real life.



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TheRealMafoo said:
Viper1 said:

@Naz and Reasonable.

Again, this probably comes down to user skill.


I agree, but understand that for me to get from one side of a 2560 resolution screen to the other with a mouse, takes less then an inch (so that's less then half an inch for a normal monitor). So that's 8x less the distance it takes you.

So yes, it comes down to skill ;) 

Goodness, how small is your screen?

I have a 21"monitor (17" inches across horizontally).    I just measured how far my mouse must move to traverse all 17" and I estimating a good deal too much.  It was 1.8 inches.  I measured using the Wii-mote also on a TV with a 17" horizontal screen and the motion was dependant on how far from the screen I was.  It was also harder to meaure because you're not moving perfectly side to side but sweeping yrou wrist side to side at an angle.  At 4 feet from the TV, twice as far from my monitor with the mouse, the motion from screen edge to screen edge was approx the same distance as with the mouse.

It can be conluded that if you can move your Wii-mote with the same speed as your mouse, your own screen accuracy should remain (keeping in mind the difference between air and mouse pad resistence and skill level).

 

Therefore, accuracy is again a matter of personal skill.  If you're skilled with a mouse already, you probably won't find much gained via the Wii-mote.  If you are not yet as skilled with the mouse, the Wii-mote will be more accurate for you first since the motion is more natural.

 

 

 



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I think I'd do better with a mouse+keyboard than a real gun fired at real folks in battle...

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Shit, too late, someones knocking on my door!!!! I'll slip into the shadows like Splinter Cell taught me!