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DKII on 02 May 2008
Kyros said:
It isn't artificial pricing if there is still demand.


If they do not produce enough to satisfy demand they are keeping up the price. If they do it because they cannot increase supply its fair. If they do it because they make more profit by not satisfying demand they are increasing prices artificially.

Which is not per se a bad thing many goods work this way. Diamonds for example are not very rare but a oligopoly of companies keeps supply down and price up. I am more surpised over the defense force action around it.

They increased supply 30% every 6 months.  Each time they did so they watched the market, saw they still needed more, and increased supply again.  There is no evil plan by Nintendo to limit supply in order to keep the price high, they're just being cautious about it.



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Final-Fan on 03 May 2008
Viper1 said:
Apple sells 20 million in a quarter with new models, colors, etc... Not the exact same product for 18 months.

I already told you why production couldn't be ramped up and you're incorrect about the tech...again. Most chipsets prior to 2008 were 130 nm. Wii is 90 nm as is the GPU. The accelerometers from AD and STM are used in many very expensive high tech devices. The MoSys 1t-SRAM is very high end RAM. The disc drive is one of the only in the world that is slot loading and accepts 2 different sized discs. The Mitsumi Wi-Fi is actually a highly specialized Linux Broadcom 4813 chipset.

You just don't want to admit that the Wii is actually pretty damn high tech.
I knew that the "outdated technology" was bunk but I never saw all those specifics laid out in one post until now. Well done, my friend.

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Final-Fan on 03 May 2008
DKII said:
They increased supply 30% every 6 months. Each time they did so they watched the market, saw they still needed more, and increased supply again. There is no evil plan by Nintendo to limit supply in order to keep the price high, they're just being cautious about it.
Production at 3.12 million/month by 2009 confirmed. 

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coolestguyever on 03 May 2008

Not only are they greedy, but I'm pretty sure they were rated the least "green" company! ;)

There was a thread about it sometime ago.



omgwtfbbq on 03 May 2008

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cwbys21 on 03 May 2008

Also at 11, scientists report that they expect the run to rise in the east tomorrow.



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LordTheNightKnight on 03 May 2008
Final-Fan said:
Viper1 said:
Apple sells 20 million in a quarter with new models, colors, etc... Not the exact same product for 18 months.

I already told you why production couldn't be ramped up and you're incorrect about the tech...again. Most chipsets prior to 2008 were 130 nm. Wii is 90 nm as is the GPU. The accelerometers from AD and STM are used in many very expensive high tech devices. The MoSys 1t-SRAM is very high end RAM. The disc drive is one of the only in the world that is slot loading and accepts 2 different sized discs. The Mitsumi Wi-Fi is actually a highly specialized Linux Broadcom 4813 chipset.

You just don't want to admit that the Wii is actually pretty damn high tech.
I knew that the "outdated technology" was bunk but I never saw all those specifics laid out in one post until now. Well done, my friend.

And the external RAM is GDDR3, the same type the 360 and PS3 use for some of their RAM. Sure it's a quarter the size, and speed, but that's to reduce cost and power consumption. 



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Lingyis on 03 May 2008

iwata isn't listening to what he's saying himself. if he's out to make sure that early purchasers don't suffer a loss, shouldn't that mean nintendo should be increasing the price of the Wii?

that way, early purchasers would be happy because their Wii is now worth more!

you're sending the wrong message by not increasing the price on the Wii, big N. you're doomed, i say, doomed!



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Gnizmo on 03 May 2008
coolestguyever said:
Not only are they greedy, but I'm pretty sure they were rated the least "green" company! ;)

There was a thread about it sometime ago.

That was based on information not given by Nintendo to Greenpeace. Greenpeace just guessed what they thought those numbers should be and gave them a rating as a result. I could go into a long rant about Greenpeace but I am going to just bite my tongue on this one. The short version is they have little to do with actually protecting the earth these days.



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Profcrab on 03 May 2008

If Demand drops then the Price will drop. Take microeconomics (or even high school econ) and you shouldn't have to ask these types of questions ever again.



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