why does discussion come up so often? I mean they'll both sell millions, and with the install base in the states of coarse more copies will go to the 360....doesn't mean the PS3 is losing or anything....

As far i can remember, MS has acted like GTA4 was exclusive to them, i remember someone had a tattoe of the game on their shoulder and how they have exclusive content coming. If they dont kill the ps3 version, i would say they blew 50 million dollrs away.

You realize that Rockstar couldn't get the PS3 version to run in HD right?

I'd say at this point the only thing holding back the PS3 version of the game was the PS3 hardware........ 

 Nice trolling Starcraft, we all know the reason was that the guys at R* suck at making games that push the system or graphics.  Every single GTA game has about 100bugs and many other things wrong with them.

 I don't think there trying to kill the ps3 version but i think microsoft realised that they had to play their cards right in order to stay in the game, if both consoles have the same boost, it is good for the 360. Depending on how well this game does on the 360 will pretty much guarantee how well the 360 will do for the rest of the year.

 I don't know if microsoft has been acting if gtaiv is exclusive to them but you must see that it is a big bonus that they have the 360 version coming out as the same time as the ps3 version. that is a definate win for microsoft and one that should be hailed in their corner.

now 50 million dollers, we have yet to see what it is and how it will affect the 360 sales for the game right up untill the dlc is released, but i expect it to outsell the cod4, and halo 3 map packs by some way if all goes well.

Wow. Did Griffin just blame the PS3 GTAIV's resolution on Rockstar's incompetence? Go and look at the only other popular sandbox games this generation, Crackdown and Saint's Row. GTAIV pawns both of them in the graphics department. Or are you suggesting Realtime Worlds and THQ are crap developers as well?

 in much the same way bungie couldn't make halo 3 run in hd, right?


looks like the only thing holding the 360 back is its hardware.

I am going to clarify again the purpose and nature of the $50 million dollars. It is a LOAN!!!! That LOAN secured exclusive DLC and apparently a simultaneous release date for Microsoft. Microsoft gets revenue from the DLC up to and including $50 million dollars. If DLC revenue exceeds this, Rockstar gets some (all?) of the overhead.

Given 1 million Xbox 360 owners bought the CoD4 maps in the first week and GTAIV will be even more popular, I see Microsoft making almost all of their money back (And then some?).

So in effect, Microsoft will get exclusive DLC and a simultaneous release for almost nothing, and perhaps even alongside a profit.

Thank you.

 well if it isn't the 700th time you've done that, and all with so very few solid facts! amazing stuff.

Er......

Ok BCNR.

*pats his head in a patronizing manner*