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Lol MH3 isn't going to PS3 because Capcom couldn't afford it.

3rd party titles aren't influenced by Console makers, usually and even so they would have to hit them up with tuns of cash.. or just give them a DS so it can print money for them.

No Nintendo isn't in direct competition is true for the time being, but they are still competing and as the great and wise Ajax said their just not competeing directly anymore.

If you want an example of direct competition look at 360 vs Ps3.

But back to Monster Hunter, that was business and regardless of what Nintendo wants to do, the point is to make money, not really more money than your competitor but to make a lot. To do that well you need to tap all forms of gamers, so MH3 is exactly that, they see the potency on the wii and gave it a shot, let's see what happens. I'm calling 2.3 million sold first week US and Japan.

The point is to get the optimal user base, people who spend on Wii products.

So there, as for KH, I haven't even heard anything about development being started on it, I just know 2 ended in a fashion to make it seem that 3 was around the corner.

For all anyone knows it could be coming to the PSP.



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HappySqurriel said:
Shameless said:

I don't care about that, the question was whether they can be compared. Would anyone in their right mind try to compare a CRT tv that came out at the same time as a Plasma tv?


Umm ... They did it for a decade.

HD-CRT TVs were compared directly to their plasma TV counterparts, and reviewers generally pointed out that these CRT TVs were higher quality and less expensive than their plasma TV counterparts; this is (of course) before all the major TV manufacturers (virtually) abandoned CRT TVs


Ugh... whatever. You know exactly what I'm talking about, stop picking at strings. Wii is last-gen technology with a pointer. Comparing last-gen technology with current-gen technology is a pointless exercise and if either HD console embraced casual gaming, it has the potential to be better than the Wii. Any sales figure quoting is redundant in this argument.

As a matter of fact, all consoles compete with each other all the time, including handhelds, including consoles of the same company competing against each other. It's called the market. Type and focus of the competition vary, and that's all because of the marketing mix : the consumer, the price, communication, point of sale. HD consoles are competing with PS2 too, they're competing with handhelds as well. Hey, even phone games are part of this market, don't forget PC gaming either.

I'd go as far as saying the Wii is competing very strongly against games such as Scrabble, Bingo, Domino, many other board games and several pastimes non-videogamers (specially) enjoy.



Shameless said:
HappySqurriel said:
Shameless said:

I don't care about that, the question was whether they can be compared. Would anyone in their right mind try to compare a CRT tv that came out at the same time as a Plasma tv?


Umm ... They did it for a decade.

HD-CRT TVs were compared directly to their plasma TV counterparts, and reviewers generally pointed out that these CRT TVs were higher quality and less expensive than their plasma TV counterparts; this is (of course) before all the major TV manufacturers (virtually) abandoned CRT TVs


 

Ugh... whatever. You know exactly what I'm talking about, stop picking at strings. Wii is last-gen technology with a pointer. Comparing last-gen technology with current-gen technology is a pointless exercise and if either HD console embraced casual gaming, it has the potential to be better than the Wii. Any sales figure quoting is redundant in this argument.

How about I use a famous quote instead:

Perfection has been achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

There is an underlying assumption that a game is (somehow) dramatically better because it takes advantage of the newer technology which is not necessarily true ...



Shameless said:
HappySqurriel said:
Shameless said:

I don't care about that, the question was whether they can be compared. Would anyone in their right mind try to compare a CRT tv that came out at the same time as a Plasma tv?


Umm ... They did it for a decade.

HD-CRT TVs were compared directly to their plasma TV counterparts, and reviewers generally pointed out that these CRT TVs were higher quality and less expensive than their plasma TV counterparts; this is (of course) before all the major TV manufacturers (virtually) abandoned CRT TVs


 

Ugh... whatever. You know exactly what I'm talking about, stop picking at strings. Wii is last-gen technology with a pointer. Comparing last-gen technology with current-gen technology is a pointless exercise and if either HD console embraced casual gaming, it has the potential to be better than the Wii. Any sales figure quoting is redundant in this argument.
Um, both are trying to do exactly this.  Problem is they are not casual gaming platforms.  Neither is mass market priced (well, X360 is getting closer) or is developer cost effective enough for this route but both are already trying according to their respective companies.

 



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Shameless said:
HappySqurriel said:
Shameless said:

I don't care about that, the question was whether they can be compared. Would anyone in their right mind try to compare a CRT tv that came out at the same time as a Plasma tv?


Umm ... They did it for a decade.

HD-CRT TVs were compared directly to their plasma TV counterparts, and reviewers generally pointed out that these CRT TVs were higher quality and less expensive than their plasma TV counterparts; this is (of course) before all the major TV manufacturers (virtually) abandoned CRT TVs


 

Ugh... whatever. You know exactly what I'm talking about, stop picking at strings. Wii is last-gen technology with a pointer. Comparing last-gen technology with current-gen technology is a pointless exercise and if either HD console embraced casual gaming, it has the potential to be better than the Wii. Any sales figure quoting is redundant in this argument.

Casual is cheap, fast and quirky. PS3/Xbox360 is none of that. 



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oh man, thanks for that lol shameless XD,

1. Happy points out a historical refference and you ignore it
2. Then before anyone even though of tossing real sales numbers in you say their pointless and redundant.
3. Then you go off a gutt feeling that HD Consoles is FTW in 2008.

Thanks, I'm happy to know people like you don't become preside.... never mind.



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ultraslick said:
libellule said:
yes, PS2 and Wii are competing each other ...

BUT

Wii is not last gen,
it is maybe more next gen than PS360 according to the amazing sales ...

 Yes maybe. But maybe the average video game consumer is still stuck in last gen, and still not ready to make the "leap"


Says he who said he wished all Wii Gamers would just choke.

J/K

I think GTA4 is proof your average video game consumer has at least put one foot forwards into the HD generation.



HappySqurriel said:
Shameless said:
HappySqurriel said:
Shameless said:

I don't care about that, the question was whether they can be compared. Would anyone in their right mind try to compare a CRT tv that came out at the same time as a Plasma tv?


Umm ... They did it for a decade.

HD-CRT TVs were compared directly to their plasma TV counterparts, and reviewers generally pointed out that these CRT TVs were higher quality and less expensive than their plasma TV counterparts; this is (of course) before all the major TV manufacturers (virtually) abandoned CRT TVs


 

Ugh... whatever. You know exactly what I'm talking about, stop picking at strings. Wii is last-gen technology with a pointer. Comparing last-gen technology with current-gen technology is a pointless exercise and if either HD console embraced casual gaming, it has the potential to be better than the Wii. Any sales figure quoting is redundant in this argument.

How about I use a famous quote instead:

Perfection has been achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

There is an underlying assumption that a game is (somehow) dramatically better because it takes advantage of the newer technology which is not necessarily true ...

 

So, this is a pointless thread... you dont care about the time frame, you dont care about old tech living with new tech (tv stuff), so if you don´t want to take the Wii as a next-gen console is your choice...

 I´m done with this talk since we are not longer talking about anything but your opinion...



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