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Forums - Sales - Chris Dring: PS5 sales in the UK during November was down 29% pre-black friday year on year. Nintendo consoles up 41% year-on-year.

Zippy6 4 hours ago

His report was wrong lol.

Nintendo was up a lot, ps5 was down 29% pre-bf (and heavy discounts) week, not 57% and Xbox was down 51%.

"Deleted previous post. My report had some double counting going on. In the UK for November, Nintendo console sales (Switch 2 + Switch 1) are up 41% year-on-year, PS5 console sales were down 29%, and Xbox sales were down 51%. Overall, console sales for November (pre-Black Friday) were down 17%."



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trunkswd 4 hours ago
Zippy6 said:

His report was wrong lol.

Nintendo was up a lot, ps5 was down 29% pre-bf (and heavy discounts) week, not 57% and Xbox was down 51%.

"Deleted previous post. My report had some double counting going on. In the UK for November, Nintendo console sales (Switch 2 + Switch 1) are up 41% year-on-year, PS5 console sales were down 29%, and Xbox sales were down 51%. Overall, console sales for November (pre-Black Friday) were down 17%."

Yuuuuuup I saw that post. How does he make such a huge error. I've gone and adjusted our Europe estimates again. Looks like weren't nearly as far off as we thought. 



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Blood_Tears 4 hours ago
Zippy6 said:

His report was wrong lol.

Nintendo was up a lot, ps5 was down 29% pre-bf (and heavy discounts) week, not 57% and Xbox was down 51%.

"Deleted previous post. My report had some double counting going on. In the UK for November, Nintendo console sales (Switch 2 + Switch 1) are up 41% year-on-year, PS5 console sales were down 29%, and Xbox sales were down 51%. Overall, console sales for November (pre-Black Friday) were down 17%."

So can we still doom and gloom about deep discounts, falling off cliffs, investors leaving and poor profits?  :)



trunkswd 4 hours ago
trunkswd said:
Europe estimates have been adjusted following the UK data. As a reminder that data is missing Black Friday week. The week with the PS5 heavily discounted.
 
Europe adjustments are:
 
PS5: 2,069,458 -> 1,875,458
NS2: 447,507 -> 439,507
NS1: 93,106 -> 86,106
XS: 50,786 -> 45,536

New worldwide estimates:
 
PlayStation 5: 3,734,450 -> 3,540,450
Switch 2: 1,799,613 -> 1,791,613
Switch 1: 358,644 -> 351,644
Xbox Series X|S: 213,354 -> 208,104

Worldwide and Europe breakdown article has been updated.

Chris updated his post and looks like we weren't nearly as far off as we thought for PS5. The other 3 are now higher than before. 

Updated Europe numbers following updated UK report from Chris Dring (Before any adjustments were done to what they are now):
  • PS5: 2,069,458 -> 1,926,758
  • NS2: 447,507 -> 463,907
  • NS1: 93,106 -> 99,006
  • XS: 50,786 -> 61,836
Last edited by trunkswd - 4 hours ago

VGChartz Sales Analyst and Writer - William D'Angelo - I stream on Twitch and have my own YouTube channel discussing gaming sales and news. Follow me on Bluesky.

I post and adjust the VGChartz hardware estimates, with help from Machina.

Writer of the Sales Comparison | Monthly Hardware Breakdown | Monthly Sales Analysis | Marketshare Features, as well as daily news on the Video Game Industry.

PotentHerbs 3 hours ago

What a Chris Dring update lol.

Definitely not as dire for Sony/Nintendo as previously thought.



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Sephiran 3 hours ago
PotentHerbs said:

What a Chris Dring update lol.

Definitely not as dire for Sony/Nintendo as previously thought.

Seems nothing really changed for Nintendo, they went from 440k European sales to 460k. Sony still sold massive numbers during November, the only thing that changed was that the record didn't get broken.



Norion 3 hours ago

That's a relief but going forward I'll keep in mind a mistake like this potentially happening again when sales seem very unusual in the UK. Nearly 60% down YoY pre-Black Friday did seem crazy but it was from Dring so I trusted it blindly. Just under 30% is way more reasonable and the Switch numbers show more than ever that extrapolating its poor performance in November in the US to elsewhere is foolish.



trunkswd 3 hours ago
Norion said:

That's a relief but going forward I'll keep in mind a mistake like this potentially happening again when sales seem very unusual in the UK. Nearly 60% down YoY pre-Black Friday did seem crazy but it was from Dring so I trusted it blindly. Just under 30% is way more reasonable and the Switch numbers show more than ever that extrapolating its poor performance in November in the US to elsewhere is foolish.

Yes same here. I was worried with how far off we were compared with his initial data. But it looks like were weren't nearly as bad.



VGChartz Sales Analyst and Writer - William D'Angelo - I stream on Twitch and have my own YouTube channel discussing gaming sales and news. Follow me on Bluesky.

I post and adjust the VGChartz hardware estimates, with help from Machina.

Writer of the Sales Comparison | Monthly Hardware Breakdown | Monthly Sales Analysis | Marketshare Features, as well as daily news on the Video Game Industry.

Sephiran 3 hours ago
Norion said:

That's a relief but going forward I'll keep in mind a mistake like this potentially happening again when sales seem very unusual in the UK. Nearly 60% down YoY pre-Black Friday did seem crazy but it was from Dring so I trusted it blindly. Just under 30% is way more reasonable and the Switch numbers show more than ever that extrapolating its poor performance in November in the US to elsewhere is foolish.

I think it shows more that Switch 2 sales in the US were more frontloaded, but even though Switch 2 sales increased in Europe, its 460k sales in Europe vs 480k sales in the US for Switch 2 during November, so Europe got closer than ever to match Switch 2 sales in the US, but it took a historically week month in the US for Europe to come close. So its more that sales in the US was weak, than sales being good in Europe (Outside PS5 big performance in Europe during November).



IcaroRibeiro 3 hours ago

We should update this thread title