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shavenferret said:
SvennoJ said:

There would still be people getting beaten, tortured, killed for being different. It doesn't come from religion, religion comes from people. 

"The fact that people try to say that others can’t be or behave a certain way, or hold certain beliefs is intolerable."
Fully agreed, but change starts at home, not by pointing fingers at outliers far away. That only encourages hatred while overlooking problems you can make a change in. Pointing fingers doesn't solve anything.

Change should occur all over the world, not just at home. 
That’s an incredible amount of weakness that I’m reading.  People would be killed for being different? It seems like the only intolerance that we have for being different is the lbgtq community. 

I know of no other groups that are persecuted nowadays. And if the hatred doesn’t ultimately come from religion, where would it originate then? I mean, religion has been the only thing that has told us that gay people are wrong. 
I live in the Bible Belt and acceptance is getting better but we have a long way to go unfortunately. 

Finally, i'll simply say that people are people and whether I criticize someone in my own nation or another doesn't matter.  But I understand if your morals make you think differently, and that is just fine.  

Open your eyes?

Just a few days ago another shooting

“I'm visibly Muslim… I really felt like there was a constant target on my back…. It really, really amplified after, you know, Trump and the whole MAGA movement gained a lot of traction in this country. I felt for a long time that it hasn't been safe for people like us. The political atmosphere is extremely violent now. It's supercharged.”

After a deadly shooting at San Diego’s largest Islamic center, Mehdi Hasan spoke with Rana Dbeis, a mother of a preschooler who was locked down during the shooting, about the rise in Islamophobia in Donald Trump’s America.

Rana describes the moment she learned there was an active shooter at her five-year-old son’s school, calling out the lack of accountability from Republicans, including Islamophobes like Vice President JD Vance and MAGA influencer Laura Loomer. She also shares what she wants people to know about the San Diego Muslim community and remembers the three beloved victims who distracted the shooters and prevented them from reaching over 100 children at the school next door.



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SvennoJ said:
shavenferret said:

Change should occur all over the world, not just at home. 
That’s an incredible amount of weakness that I’m reading.  People would be killed for being different? It seems like the only intolerance that we have for being different is the lbgtq community. 

I know of no other groups that are persecuted nowadays. And if the hatred doesn’t ultimately come from religion, where would it originate then? I mean, religion has been the only thing that has told us that gay people are wrong. 
I live in the Bible Belt and acceptance is getting better but we have a long way to go unfortunately. 

Finally, i'll simply say that people are people and whether I criticize someone in my own nation or another doesn't matter.  But I understand if your morals make you think differently, and that is just fine.  

Open your eyes?

Just a few days ago another shooting

“I'm visibly Muslim… I really felt like there was a constant target on my back…. It really, really amplified after, you know, Trump and the whole MAGA movement gained a lot of traction in this country. I felt for a long time that it hasn't been safe for people like us. The political atmosphere is extremely violent now. It's supercharged.”

After a deadly shooting at San Diego’s largest Islamic center, Mehdi Hasan spoke with Rana Dbeis, a mother of a preschooler who was locked down during the shooting, about the rise in Islamophobia in Donald Trump’s America.

Rana describes the moment she learned there was an active shooter at her five-year-old son’s school, calling out the lack of accountability from Republicans, including Islamophobes like Vice President JD Vance and MAGA influencer Laura Loomer. She also shares what she wants people to know about the San Diego Muslim community and remembers the three beloved victims who distracted the shooters and prevented them from reaching over 100 children at the school next door.

How are muslims persecuted?   Even if they are being watched more due to islamic extremism and terrorism, that still doesn't add up to persecution.  You can look at what the jews had to go through during the holocaust and then compare that to your persecution, and soon you realize that just as our dollars are inflating, so is the concept of persecution.  



shavenferret said:

How are muslims persecuted?   Even if they are being watched more due to islamic extremism and terrorism, that still doesn't add up to persecution.  You can look at what the jews had to go through during the holocaust and then compare that to your persecution, and soon you realize that just as our dollars are inflating, so is the concept of persecution.  

Persecution is the systematic and deliberate mistreatment of an individual or group, typically driven by prejudice. It often involves severe harassment, the denial of fundamental human rights, or violence based on characteristics such as race, religion, political beliefs, or sexual orientation.

The concept is still the same, that you only wish to focus on one aspect of persecution done by one extremist group doesn't change the definition.

Many people are going through what Jews (and many other minority groups) had to go through during the holocaust, daily.



SvennoJ said:
shavenferret said:

How are muslims persecuted?   Even if they are being watched more due to islamic extremism and terrorism, that still doesn't add up to persecution.  You can look at what the jews had to go through during the holocaust and then compare that to your persecution, and soon you realize that just as our dollars are inflating, so is the concept of persecution.  

Persecution is the systematic and deliberate mistreatment of an individual or group, typically driven by prejudice. It often involves severe harassment, the denial of fundamental human rights, or violence based on characteristics such as race, religion, political beliefs, or sexual orientation.

The concept is still the same, that you only wish to focus on one aspect of persecution done by one extremist group doesn't change the definition.

Many people are going through what Jews (and many other minority groups) had to go through during the holocaust, daily.

Why are only muslims committing terrorism?   

So, are they persecuting the rest of the world (but mostly americans)???

Are guns and bombs from these terrorists considered persecution?  I think so.  



shavenferret said:

Why are only muslims committing terrorism?   

So, are they persecuting the rest of the world (but mostly americans)???

Are guns and bombs from these terrorists considered persecution?  I think so.  

Do you really believe that?

Terrorism is the calculated use of violence or the threat of violence against non-combatants to instill fear, coerce a government, or achieve political, religious, or ideological objectives.

Terrorism is mostly done by governments, the US government in particular, followed by Russia, Israel, Iran and so on.

But if you just want to use the narrow definition those using 'terrorism' as validation, you're still wrong

https://reliefweb.int/report/world/global-terrorism-index-2026

The increasingly fragmented global political environment, described in IEP’s Great Fragmentation report, is reflected through a rise in politically motivated terrorist attacks, which increased by almost 20 per cent in 2025. South America accounted for 75 per cent of all terrorism deaths linked to political ideology. Despite the high media profile of attacks in the West, the primary driver of terrorism remains conflict. Only one per cent of deaths from terrorism in 2025 occurred outside conflict-affected countries.

The word terrorist has become political propaganda. Persecution is mainly driven by governments disguised as the war on terrorism.



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The ironically named bbc (because it is shorthand for big black c0ck) has reported that Ghana has passed a law making it illegal to be gay. Anyone knowing of a gay relationship is obligated to report this or face arrest themselves.


Christians are to blame for this and many churches have donated to organizations in Ghana that support this law. Shame on you Ghana and Ghana Christians , let the bbc’s fly high

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yedendprko



That wonderful shining religion who is so full of love has inspired a mob to threaten a woman bc she wore a dress with Arabic letters on it. They thought it was quranic verses. I hope that some good ol’ boys see this video and draw Muhammad with his favorite wife Aisha

Here’s the video
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JF9wJLyTm/?mibextid=wwXIfr





Iranian hairstylist Ami Moghadam received death threats for posting videos of women receiving haircuts on Instagram.

So she decided to troll the Islamic Regime and their oppressive mandatory hijab laws in the most epic, hilarious way possible. 😂

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1B8yJTLGyq/?mibextid=wwXIfr

The absolute lunacy coming out of Texas evangelicals around James Talarico is horrifying. That's not a religion, that's a political machine.



The religious evangelical right has a big presence in my country's political spectrum. Thanks to them, our senate recently passed (and by recently i mean literally yesterday) a bill where children as young as 14 years old are unable to legally seek abortion, even in cases of rape. It makes me sick to my stomach.