How true is that though?  Not questioning you, just always wanted to talk about this.  Games require system ram and not just for OS.  

The deck has like 16 gb ram, 4 for OS, 4 is vram other 8 is system. 

A S2 has 12 gb and 3 is for the OS...  but that remaining 9 gb isn't vram.  Half or more will be used as system ram.  So really the S2 has 4 dedicated vram, which is what the 2050 has.  

Or am I thinking of this wrong?  Point I'm getting is people to think the S2 has ram being used by OS and vram...  this isn't true.  

The S2 doesn't have 9 gb dedicated to vram.  At most it would be 6 gb, at most.  Yeah?

Ignore Redkong, he is just the latest alt account of zeldaring/quickrick/ninjablade (his 15th or so alt by now) carrying on the same obsessive crusade of downplaying and trolling Nintendo hardware that he has been on since at least 2012.

Just report him and move on.

I haven't even down played switch 2 hardware. Just looking at the game released it seems like a PS4 with DLSS, I was told the CPU is 2x PS4, and that it more powerful then pro, mean while almost every demanding game is 1080p and running the same frames as PS4. I will say the hardware is between PS4 and PRO just like DF said. Looking at recent games almost everything is struggling to hold a 30fps that's struggling to me, I'm not gonna sugar coat it.

To be fair it is mobile hardware.  Yes there were a few people with the "omg matrix trading blows with the ps5" but there weren't many.  Most all of us expected ps4 and ps4 pro.  And the S2 hangs with more expensive mobiles like Ally. 

For the price the S2 is doing well.  

I never said it was bad hardware. Just that is struggling to run many current gen games. If you feel 25-30fps is running good more power to you.

Here is the most impressive cyberpunk 2077 running on switch 2 and people think this great?

Well I think "struggle" is passive aggressive.  And fps is a personal opinion.  Frankly I'm not a fan of 60 fps and run third party at 120 fps.  But I wouldn't say the ps5 is struggling because 60 fps.

If doesn't help that, imo, anybody who was expecting 60 fps from third party was being silly.  The S2 was always going to be mostly a 30 fps system, outside 1st party games.  

Cyberpunk is not a solid 30fps, in fact most of the games i talk about are not solid 30fps. Madden, Elden ring, Star wars, boderlands, hogwarts, and daemon x. You can watch the last 3 minutes and tell is that running good?

I think it runs as expected from mobile hardware, especially at $450.

Not really. This is a 2025 device, a 5nm  would have made this run at a solid 40fps, and future proofed this bad boy.

Sure and 16 gb would have helped...  and the product would have been $600 instead of $450.  Nintendo is mass appeal, price matters more than cutting edge.  Nintendo made the right choice, they just set the record for best launch.  Anybody who wants cutting edge shouldn't be buying Nintendo.