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redkong said:

PC is a much better choice then PS5 right now. If someone has a powerful PC very few reasons to own a PlayStation console.

Lets be honest, you dont even need a powerful PC anymore to play whatever games you want on Steam. I bought my laptop 2 years ago for under $1700 and I can play anything on Steam and it looks fantastic, currently playing Oblivion Remaster. 


We all know that Sony is liking the success of Helldivers 2 and Stellar Blade on steam and is probably just figuring out what their perfect balance is between the PS family then Steam and whatever other platforms they are considering. And you really cant blame them with how successful some of the newer PC launches have been.

The best way to take this quote is not that Sony is looking to back out of the hardware business or whatever. But rather how they can reach the most amount of players with their games, while maintaining their powerhouse name brand. 



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Ashadelo said:
redkong said:

PC is a much better choice then PS5 right now. If someone has a powerful PC very few reasons to own a PlayStation console.

Lets be honest, you dont even need a powerful PC anymore to play whatever games you want on Steam. I bought my laptop 2 years ago for under $1700 and I can play anything on Steam and it looks fantastic, currently playing Oblivion Remaster. 


We all know that Sony is liking the success of Helldivers 2 and Stellar Blade on steam and is probably just figuring out what their perfect balance is between the PS family then Steam and whatever other platforms they are considering. And you really cant blame them with how successful some of the newer PC launches have been.

The best way to take this quote is not that Sony is looking to back out of the hardware business or whatever. But rather how they can reach the most amount of players with their games, while maintaining their powerhouse name brand. 

Well i was talking about if you want powerful  console near release for a good price and don't care about emulation and paying for online then it's not a bad deal. That's really the best way to get your money worth from PlayStation now, while Nintendo offers handheld and exclusives.



So you’re telling me that.. 🔎 *let me check my notes here* .. people on other platforms might get to play PS games and that upsets the PS community? You wanna keep playing those $500m games that take an entire generation to make then you better hope Sony start wanting to maximise their returns. I’ve said this in regards to Xbox but them putting their games on multiple platforms doesn’t devalue your system anymore than the games they’ve already put on PC. You’ve built your digital libraries on PS and you’ll still get everything Sony puts on on PS so why the fuck does it matter what platforms they’re on. “Console wars” are over, it’s time to start realising so are exclusives.



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VersusEvil said:

So you’re telling me that.. 🔎 *let me check my notes here* .. people on other platforms might get to play PS games and that upsets the PS community? You wanna keep playing those $500m games that take an entire generation to make then you better hope Sony start wanting to maximise their returns. I’ve said this in regards to Xbox but them putting their games on multiple platforms doesn’t devalue your system anymore than the games they’ve already put on PC. You’ve built your digital libraries on PS and you’ll still get everything Sony puts on on PS so why the fuck does it matter what platforms they’re on. “Console wars” are over, it’s time to start realising so are exclusives.

this is either an incredibly bad faith comment because there's barely anyone here upset Sony has their games on other platforms, or it's a poorly informed one because PS games on other platforms is old news.

Or it's both.



Shuhei Yoshida says AAA budgets doubled from PS4 to PS5. On the other hand, PS console sales have stayed relatively the same.

Something has to give, hence prices increasing for things like hardware and subscriptions, and now their games coming to other platforms. Exclusivity is growing more and more of a handicap in an era where a blockbuster game can cost hundreds of millions of dollar to make.



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twintail said:

this is either an incredibly bad faith comment because there's barely anyone here upset Sony has their games on other platforms, or it's a poorly informed one because PS games on other platforms is old news.

Or it's both.

Or how about neither. You would have to be incredibly naive or simply never look at the article section if you think people aren’t upset by this news and considering HD2 was just brought to Xbox by Sony themselves (confirmed by the devs) then it’s not “old news” at all. However Sony plan to expand doesn’t take anything away from you and should be seen as good news if you care about gaming unless all you care about is having your precious walled garden. 



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Great for consumers.

Had a feeling this would be the case - the companies are branching out to different ways to get more money due to expensive costs.

Microsoft/Xbox went their way to buy out IPs/companies so they can get the share of the profit they could make from the games that were released or will be released

Sony/Playstation sort of did that but in a smaller portion compared to MS/Xbox except they are branching out to another aspect of the entertainment industry - movies/tv shows/animation - which is why they own crunchyroll/funimation.

Nintendo's doing way more than people expect them to do a decade ago branching out their IPs to make deals like with merchandise such as toys, collectables and into mobile gaming with third party partners (something which pre-2010 you no one would expect them to do) along with making movies.


Its a great time to be a consumer and I'm loving it.



Sounds a lot like the MAU talk that Microsoft got shit for shifting too. They’re also porting games to Xbox now like Helldivers. What a bizarre generation.

I’m sure their single player games, assuming they ever make any more, will stay PS/PC only, or at least will port elsewhere much later.



Qwark said:
xboxgreen said:

Makes sense to me. More money to be made from software than hardware. Sorry everyone, but cloud gaming and subscriptions are the future.

In an pretty sure PS+ brings in a shit ton of money though. It would make much less money of there are only 40 million PlayStations out there at the end of the PS6 era.

Sony's hardware is in their own way. They could have way more subscribers and money if they expand and focus on cloud gaming like Microsoft and Nivida are doing.



VersusEvil said:

Or how about neither. You would have to be incredibly naive or simply never look at the article section if you think people aren’t upset by this news and considering HD2 was just brought to Xbox by Sony themselves (confirmed by the devs) then it’s not “old news” at all. However Sony plan to expand doesn’t take anything away from you and should be seen as good news if you care about gaming unless all you care about is having your precious walled garden. 

I'll acknowledge that I was referring to this thread only while you weren't, so that's fair.

Still, HD2 is not the first game from Sony on Xbox. MLB has been on Xbox since 2021. Marathon was announced for Xbox. Project Gummy Bears is expected to be on Xbox. The switch got Horizon Lego day 1 last year. It most definitely is old news. Anyone thinking otherwise is just trying to stir controversy.