I can't believe anybody is voting Phil Spencer. That doesn't even make sense. Console sales have remained steady under his leadership, while the XBox business overall has grown massively.

Don Mattrick is worse because the 8th generation was the worse generation to mess up. If Xbox one didn't force Kinect it would've solved 80% of their problems.

Traditional consoles (PS5 and XBS) across the board are selling worse than previous generation. Seems everyone is migrating to PC gaming more and more. So much that even Sony is supporting PC and now Xbox.

Microsoft Gaming division is doing better than ever because of all the acquisitions Phil Spencer help led. Also, I am bias because Xbox series consoles are in my top 3 favorite consoles of all time.

Xbox series consoles are tracking behind Xbox one in same time frame. I don't think GTA6 will be enough to overcome that. However, I think traditional consoles aren't selling as well as it did before. PC gaming is taking a lot of sales from consoles.

Phil Spencer is great because the value he brought with game pass and all of the acquisitions he was able to complete.
I just wish Microsoft will get rid of the cost for Xbox live and make xbox game pass same price as PC game pass. 

This is trick question, and the answer is Phil.

Who did more damage to Xbox's console business? Phil because he's trying to eliminate the console business and move forward with GP/play anywhere. Don still had console in mind for business. 😋

I think people that say this need to be banned for spreading misinformation. The Switch 2 just broke records and the PS5 is selling perfectly fine. It's not true and people shouldn't be saying it. 

Numbers and revenues. Not sure what you want to "debate" :) Again, you are mixing your plastic box success and how much you love Sony with how successfuly or not Xbox is in general. There is nothing to debate, you are right.
Them being third in the console area and you not liking them, does not make them unsuccessful.

Read the title again:

Who did more damage to Xbox's console business

"and seeing where they are today is definitely a success in my opinion."

The console business is doing worse again, lagging behind the XBox One.

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/464075/xbox-series-xs-vs-xbox-one-sales-comparison-january-2025/






In general XBox gaming division is still successful, but it would be hard not to after buying up tons of studios, $76 Billion for Zenimax and Acti-Blizzard being the two huge ones. 

- Prior to its acquisition by Microsoft, Zenimax Media's revenue was estimated to be in the range of $1.3 billion to $2.2 billion for calendar year 2020
- Before Microsoft's acquisition, Activision Blizzard generated an annual revenue of approximately $8.3 billion in 2021.
- In 2020, Microsoft's Xbox gaming revenue reached $12.4 billion. This figure includes both hardware and software sales for the Xbox console series.

Add all those up, 22-23 Billion together, add inflation, 26-27 Billion for this year.

In Microsoft's fiscal year 2024, which spanned from July 2023 to June 2024, gaming revenue reached 15.47 billion U.S. dollars, down from 21.5 billion U.S. dollars in the previous fiscal period.

The sum is smaller than its parts.

True, did not realize this was about the "console" part only :) (I honestly don't think he was talking about the console aspect only but the OP is)

But then again, Mattrick is still the number one responsible for that (Xbox One debacle is the main reason why Xbox is there today). But revenues does not matter for sure (in the console area) as Microsoft is clearly changing their strategy and focus (or already did).

Also, I'm not sure where those numbers come but 2.2B for an acquisition of 7.5B does not make any sense... If Zenimax would be generating 2.2B, there is no way Microsoft could have bought them for 7.5B :) Math does not work there.

Revenue doesn't mean profit, Zenimax was hurting. It seems those numbers come from here (Google took them from here)
https://www.morningstar.com/stocks/microsoft-acquires-zenimax-bolsters-gaming-portfolio

For comparison, Epic Games’ June 2020 financing valued it at about $17 billion based on an estimated $5 billion in revenue, which implies a price/sales multiple of 3.4 times for that deal, while publicly traded analogs such as Activision, Electronic Arts, and TakeTwo, among others, trade at a median price/sales of 5.9 times. Using these multiples as guardrails suggests ZeniMax's revenue could be in a range of $1.3 billion-$2.2 billion for calendar 2020.

It seems more like MS overpaid for Acti-Blizzard deal
https://companiesmarketcap.com/usd/activision-blizzard/revenue/#google_vignette
There it says 8.7B for 2023, MS paid 68.7B, 7.9 times the revenue. 

A bad deal overall, paying a premium price while not getting the desired boost for gamepass and combined revenues lagging behind.


But true, Mattrick severely kneecapped the XBox One release setting the ball rolling. Spencer tried to spend the XBox division out of its decline, didn't manage a turn around like PS3 vs 360, but can still show absolute growth in revenue thanks to acquisitions. 

Now who is worse for the console business, the one setting XBox up for the fall, or the one only slowing down / prolonging the fall unable to actually fix the down turn and basically making the console business irrelevant, going 3rd party mode. 

Saying that I'm in love with Sony but you're the one that is so quick to defend Xbox that you can't even read the topic of the thread properly. I understand that there is more to success in the gaming space than just console sales, and MAU and revenues can be equally as important. However this is a website comparing CONSOLE sales and where people talk about console sales. It's just counter intuitive to come to VGChartz and implying people are weirdos for caring about sales of plastic boxes when that is literally the entire point of the website.