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SvennoJ said:
Imaginedvl said:

Numbers and revenues. Not sure what you want to "debate" :) Again, you are mixing your plastic box success and how much you love Sony with how successfuly or not Xbox is in general. There is nothing to debate, you are right.
Them being third in the console area and you not liking them, does not make them unsuccessful.


Read the title again:

Who did more damage to Xbox's console business

"and seeing where they are today is definitely a success in my opinion."

The console business is doing worse again, lagging behind the XBox One.

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/464075/xbox-series-xs-vs-xbox-one-sales-comparison-january-2025/






In general XBox gaming division is still successful, but it would be hard not to after buying up tons of studios, $76 Billion for Zenimax and Acti-Blizzard being the two huge ones. 

- Prior to its acquisition by Microsoft, Zenimax Media's revenue was estimated to be in the range of $1.3 billion to $2.2 billion for calendar year 2020
- Before Microsoft's acquisition, Activision Blizzard generated an annual revenue of approximately $8.3 billion in 2021.
- In 2020, Microsoft's Xbox gaming revenue reached $12.4 billion. This figure includes both hardware and software sales for the Xbox console series.


Add all those up, 22-23 Billion together, add inflation, 26-27 Billion for this year.

In Microsoft's fiscal year 2024, which spanned from July 2023 to June 2024, gaming revenue reached 15.47 billion U.S. dollars, down from 21.5 billion U.S. dollars in the previous fiscal period.

The sum is smaller than its parts.

True, did not realize this was about the "console" part only :) (I honestly don't think he was talking about the console aspect only but the OP is)

But then again, Mattrick is still the number one responsible for that (Xbox One debacle is the main reason why Xbox is there today). But revenues does not matter for sure (in the console area) as Microsoft is clearly changing their strategy and focus (or already did).

Also, I'm not sure where those numbers come but 2.2B for an acquisition of 7.5B does not make any sense... If Zenimax would be generating 2.2B, there is no way Microsoft could have bought them for 7.5B :) Math does not work there.

Last edited by Imaginedvl - on 11 July 2025