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RolStoppable 6 days ago
HoloDust said:

Well, they're really, really trying...especially with Doug Bowser going into full Don Mattrick mode.

I tried to find something along those lines, but all my search could come up with is this:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/nintendo-switch-2-price-tariffs-1.7503598

Bowser, who spoke with CBC prior to the U.S. pre-order pause, noted that the previous generation of Switch devices will still be supported, including with a selection of new games coming out later this year.

"We recognize there are some people that may not be able to afford [the Switch 2's] price point. That's why we wanted to make the other Switch platforms available, so [people] still have an opportunity to come into our gaming universe, be a part of these characters in these worlds, and see value, if you will, in whatever rung of the platform they come in."

I've found this same quote butchered on another website to put a different spin on it, namely to make it sound like "Can't afford Switch 2? Just buy Switch 1 then!"



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zorg1000 6 days ago
RolStoppable said:
HoloDust said:

Well, they're really, really trying...especially with Doug Bowser going into full Don Mattrick mode.

I tried to find something along those lines, but all my search could come up with is this:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/nintendo-switch-2-price-tariffs-1.7503598

Bowser, who spoke with CBC prior to the U.S. pre-order pause, noted that the previous generation of Switch devices will still be supported, including with a selection of new games coming out later this year.

"We recognize there are some people that may not be able to afford [the Switch 2's] price point. That's why we wanted to make the other Switch platforms available, so [people] still have an opportunity to come into our gaming universe, be a part of these characters in these worlds, and see value, if you will, in whatever rung of the platform they come in."

I've found this same quote butchered on another website to put a different spin on it, namely to make it sound like "Can't afford Switch 2? Just buy Switch 1 then!"

Yeah context is important, there is a huge difference between:

”Can’t afford Switch 2? Just get a Switch 1 you peasant!”

and

”We understand that Switch 2 may too expensive for some so we are committed to continuing support for Switch 1 to allow as many people as possible to enjoy our games.”



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Tober 6 days ago
SvennoJ said:
CaptainExplosion said:

He's just trying to save his own ass. What's the fucker's problem with Vietnam other than it's non-American manufacturing?

Nothing. ChatGtp simply calculated Vietnams Import vs Export to the USA and slapped 46% on Vietnam for exporting more than importing.
Which doesn't make any sense, plus ignores services, non material imports.

It's still 10% now, with currently 145% on China, so the Switch isn't out of hot water yet. Plus who knows what Trump is doing in 90 days, he only announced a pause. Nintendo can use their Vietnam production for the US, already 60% of US' Switches come from Vietnam and over half of all Switches are produced in Vietnam and Cambodia. (Which would have gotten 49% tarrif yesterday).

So for now Nintendo can increase US production in Vietnam and Cambodia to service 100% of the US from these places at 10% tarrifs, import and store then in US warehouses before July 8th when the 90 day pause is up.

That is of course if those plants are already making Switch 2, if the Switch 2 plants are in China then it's more fucked than before.

Eliminating the US trade deficit with Vietnam is really easy.

Step1) Commit Genocide in the US to reduce population levels to those of Vietnam.

Step2) Break the economy so those who are left to live on Vietnamese living standards.

And the free market will do the rest.



Tober 6 days ago
zorg1000 said:
RolStoppable said:

I tried to find something along those lines, but all my search could come up with is this:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/nintendo-switch-2-price-tariffs-1.7503598

Bowser, who spoke with CBC prior to the U.S. pre-order pause, noted that the previous generation of Switch devices will still be supported, including with a selection of new games coming out later this year.

"We recognize there are some people that may not be able to afford [the Switch 2's] price point. That's why we wanted to make the other Switch platforms available, so [people] still have an opportunity to come into our gaming universe, be a part of these characters in these worlds, and see value, if you will, in whatever rung of the platform they come in."

I've found this same quote butchered on another website to put a different spin on it, namely to make it sound like "Can't afford Switch 2? Just buy Switch 1 then!"

Yeah context is important, there is a huge difference between:

”Can’t afford Switch 2? Just get a Switch 1 you peasant!”

and

”We understand that Switch 2 may too expensive for some so we are committed to continuing support for Switch 1 to allow as many people as possible to enjoy our games.”

Not only that, but also the Xbox situation was specifically about needing to be always online, not so much the pricing.



Shaunodon 6 days ago

It makes me wonder if people are being paid to spread deliberate misinformation about Switch 2. They're putting so much effort into it.



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Tober 6 days ago
Shaunodon said:

It makes me wonder if people are being paid to spread deliberate misinformation about Switch 2. They're putting so much effort into it.

I think it's just click bait junkies. Nothing gets more clicks than outrage. So in a way they do get paid for it



CaptainExplosion 6 days ago
HoloDust said:

Well, they're really, really trying...especially with Doug Bowser going into full Don Mattrick mode.

What does that mean?

zorg1000 said:
RolStoppable said:

I tried to find something along those lines, but all my search could come up with is this:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/nintendo-switch-2-price-tariffs-1.7503598

Bowser, who spoke with CBC prior to the U.S. pre-order pause, noted that the previous generation of Switch devices will still be supported, including with a selection of new games coming out later this year.

"We recognize there are some people that may not be able to afford [the Switch 2's] price point. That's why we wanted to make the other Switch platforms available, so [people] still have an opportunity to come into our gaming universe, be a part of these characters in these worlds, and see value, if you will, in whatever rung of the platform they come in."

I've found this same quote butchered on another website to put a different spin on it, namely to make it sound like "Can't afford Switch 2? Just buy Switch 1 then!"

Yeah context is important, there is a huge difference between:

”Can’t afford Switch 2? Just get a Switch 1 you peasant!”

and

”We understand that Switch 2 may too expensive for some so we are committed to continuing support for Switch 1 to allow as many people as possible to enjoy our games.”

That second one is more accurate I think.



Bumblaster 6 days ago

Nintendo have done absolutely nothing wrong. It's been stupid YouTubers who have put 2+2 and come up with 5! It's a good system for $450, even better value if you buy the Mario Kart Bundle. Most games will run better for free and you only have to pay for an upgrade if there is additional content. NSO members don't pay anything. The Nintendo games are available completely physical as they get totally downloaded once onto a cart which can be sold later on if you feel like it. ONE game is $80, one single game and that game looks groundbreaking. The others games will be $70 or less. If the console goes up due to Orange Mans tariffs that's not Nintendo's fault. Misinformation has been widely spread by well known YouTubers getting their facts all wrong.



JRPGfan 6 days ago
HyrulianScrolls said:

To me the dead giveaway that the game prices are a matter of greed and not necessity is that Nintendo reps have actually been trying to justify charging money for Welcome Tour in the media. This is software that isn’t even a fraction as much of a “game” as something like Astro’s Playroom based on the gaming press who’ve gone hands on with it. And even Reggie is coming for them about this on Twitter now, pointing to why Wii Sports as a pack-in was necessary.

If they are greedy enough to charge $10 for a glorified system tutorial app, that tells me the game prices could stand to come down by a solid $10 or $15 as well. I think making Welcome Tour a free download and setting the standard first party game price to $65 (with $70 reserved for TOTK style epics) would turn things heavily back in their favor here. The console price isn’t as big of an issue considering the hardware looks worth a $450 price tag (though if the tariff crap comes back around in 90 days, then they’re back in a big problem situation).

These little tech demos that showcase what the hardware can do, are also often what people show others, that visit.
Like "look at this cool thing, this system has" *puts on the tech demo* and asks friend to do x,y,z.. 

If every now and again, that tech demo sold someone else on getting a new system, that's money well spent making it.
They should view it as marketing spend, and have it be free for everyone instead. That is what everyone else does.



Phenomajp13 6 days ago
JRPGfan said:
HyrulianScrolls said:

To me the dead giveaway that the game prices are a matter of greed and not necessity is that Nintendo reps have actually been trying to justify charging money for Welcome Tour in the media. This is software that isn’t even a fraction as much of a “game” as something like Astro’s Playroom based on the gaming press who’ve gone hands on with it. And even Reggie is coming for them about this on Twitter now, pointing to why Wii Sports as a pack-in was necessary.

If they are greedy enough to charge $10 for a glorified system tutorial app, that tells me the game prices could stand to come down by a solid $10 or $15 as well. I think making Welcome Tour a free download and setting the standard first party game price to $65 (with $70 reserved for TOTK style epics) would turn things heavily back in their favor here. The console price isn’t as big of an issue considering the hardware looks worth a $450 price tag (though if the tariff crap comes back around in 90 days, then they’re back in a big problem situation).

These little tech demos that showcase what the hardware can do, are also often what people show others, that visit.
Like "look at this cool thing, this system has" *puts on the tech demo* and asks friend to do x,y,z.. 

If every now and again, that tech demo sold someone else on getting a new system, that's money well spent making it.
They should view it as marketing spend, and have it be free for everyone instead. That is what everyone else does.

I'm sure Nintendo views all types of software including the tech demos as a way to sale hardware. Doesn't seem like they are interested in bundling software for free though for whatever reason. What I find interesting is how we try to tell other businesses to do something based off what we see from others while ignoring these businesses all do things differently. There are things I wish both Sony and Nintendo would do because I see the other doing it.