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Forums - Sales Discussion - Famitsu sales Week 52, 2024 - Week 1, 2025 (23/12/24 - 5/1/25)

Pinkie_pie said:
Darc Requiem said:

This forum is for a video games sales site. You should know how these things works. When a company has great sales they brag about them. When their sales are underwhelming they don't mention them and/or make it difficult to determine. When Xbox One sales tanked, Microsoft stopped reporting them. When the PS3 was doing poorly, Sony grouped PS2 and PS3 sales together to mask how the console was truly selling. Sony wouldn't stay silent while Nintendo has 85+% dominance of the weekly Japanese software sales charts if they had numbers to show otherwise. As for the bolded text, this is Japanese sales thread. Complaining about Japan being the focus of this thread's discoussion is asinine. This isn't the "Weekly Global Sales Thread". It's a Famitsu Sales Thread. Japanese sales are literally the focus of the thread's discussion.

Thing is it's not even that bad. Sony consoles been consistently selling like this in Japan for 20 years or so but we getting doom and gloom every week from Nintendo fans

And their software consistently sold better over that time frame and that's were Sony makes their money, not hardware. Nintendo is the only hardware manufacturer that makes a significant profit on hardware. Sony and MS lose money on hardware in the hopes that software sales make up for it. "Nintendo fans" aren't the issue. Sony's business decisions are. They've, for all intents and purposes, abandoned their home market. Because of that gamers,their software library, Japanese software sales have suffered for it. Playstation used be more than big budget "tent pole" Western focuseed games. Sony had software variety. Games like Astrobot weren't so few and far between. Sony is fortunate that the leadership of Don Mattrick and Phil Spencer has been brand killing. Jim Ryan's D+ leadership only was successful because Phil Spencer's was comparatively scoring an F-.



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Darc Requiem said:
Pinkie_pie said:

Thing is it's not even that bad. Sony consoles been consistently selling like this in Japan for 20 years or so but we getting doom and gloom every week from Nintendo fans

And their software consistently sold better over that time frame and that's were Sony makes their money, not hardware. Nintendo is the only hardware manufacturer that makes a significant profit on hardware. Sony and MS lose money on hardware in the hopes that software sales make up for it. "Nintendo fans" aren't the issue. Sony's business decisions are. They've, for all intents and purposes, abandoned their home market. Because of that gamers,their software library, Japanese software sales have suffered for it. Playstation used be more than big budget "tent pole" Western focuseed games. Sony had software variety. Games like Astrobot weren't so few and far between. Sony is fortunate that the leadership of Don Mattrick and Phil Spencer has been brand killing. Jim Ryan's D+ leadership only was successful because Phil Spencer's was comparatively scoring an F-.

Again with the software.  I already told you previous Playstations didn't have the ps subscription tiers , no gacha games and digital is on the rise. You do know people buy console to play games right? Whether it's from subscription, dlc or f2p games they are making record profits. I haven't bought as many games on PS5 as I did on every other Playstations but I spent way more on PS5 . PS5 has all these f2p gacha games that are making hundreds of millions every month. I'm on the premium tier, spending at least $20 a month on 4 different gacha games and haven't bought a physical game since ratchet and clank released . Nintendo earn more profits from software.  Sony earning more profits from subscription tiers, dlc, f2p games 

Last edited by Pinkie_pie - on 16 January 2025

Pinkie_pie said:
archbrix said:

Uh...ok.  Bookmarking this post for the future.

Sure I'll bookmark this too. You said it will sell less than 1m this year. For it to happen it's gonna need to avg less than 20k weekly. It could sell less than 20k on some normal weeks but then you forgetting about the holidays and the yearly deals Sony always have

It will avg less than 10k and once Switch 2 hit the stores with a monster Hunter wild port... The holidays boost will be not significant i am afraid



 

 

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