Alright, so I'm checking the primary yesterday and I see that like 95 percent of black voters, voted for Obama.

If I'm not mistaken, at least a few of these people are voting for Obama based mainly on the color of his skin. Whatever the reasons past that, don't matter, imo.

Fact is, with 95 percent of any vote, when everyone else are split around 60 40, or 55, 45, it's obvious that many black voters are voting for Obama because he is black.

This is the worse kind of racism, isn't it?

These people, at least a significant portion of them, are voting for a candidate based not on the content of his character, but on the color of his skin.

What if 95 percent of while people voted for Hillary? Wouldn't that be called racism and blasted all over the newspapers, radio, and television the next day? Wouldn't American race relations be set back 50 years? Isn't there most certainly a double standard here?

There are certainly many other elements at play, but a vast majority of support from Obama's black backers seem to originate from the color of the mans skin, and not his policies.

If Obama was the republican candidate running against Hillary, would these race voters still give him the nod because he's black? It would appear that at least some of them would.

Either way, there is certainly a double standard for what is considered racism here, as if 80 percent of white voters in Mississippi voted for Hilary, there would be an uproar and racism blame, would there not be? Yes there would, and there should be here.

What say you?

Aren't there more whites then blacks in the United States? I'd think that would prove the topic title wrong, and even if Obama is winning the race division, the gender division goes to Hillary hands down. And if there were an uproar against Obama there should be one against Hillary as well. Really, I don't see much difference in either candidate besides the debate on health care, and I feel Obama encourages more and is more honest, imo.

The topic presents a possiblity, it doesn't set it in stone. Do you have an opinion on a double standard for black vs white race win margins in primaries? Do you feel people voting for Obama based strictly on the color of his skin are racists? Lets stay on topic.

Firstly, would be great to see atleast some kind of basis for "a vast majority of support from Obama's black backers seem to originate from the color of the mans skin, and not his policies" business rather than just what you think. I could just say that those who voted for Hilary were doing so purely because she was the non-black choice, and it would be equally baseless. I could also say all females were voting for her based on her gender.

I think they are voting for him because they want to make history...

(btw the most racist double standard thing i can think of is when someone says "it's because i'm black isn't it")

I thought this is what we thought of the candidate type of thread/ people voting for them, and to answer your question, I just vote for who I believe is the best candidate, regardless of race, color, etc. Sure if we did vote for candidates who are of a different race or gender it would bring bigger change, but what for? Better or Worse? The President's job is about the country, and if the best candidate is an "average" President, I'll vote for him.

Yes, I believe there is a double standard, especially because of the media.

Yes, most people of the same race as him would vote for him because he is black, I don't believe some are racist, they have pride in their race, but to be racist you would have to hate another, I don't really think they are.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/22/pa.primary/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Obama drew more than 90 percent of the vote among Pennsylvania's black voters, who are heavily concentrated around Philadelphia.

Now listen up. I'm not going to debate you all on "omg you can't prove it's happening." It obviously is, I mean, be serious. If Obama was white, he would not draw 90 percent of the black vote, sorry.

Anyway, that's not what this topic is about, so again, I don't care about what you think regarding the possiblity that maybe its a conincidence. That's silly, but I don't care either way, think what you want to think.

I'm debating the ideology:

If someone votes for a candidate based on the color of this skin, and not the content of their character, is it racist?

If so, is there a double standard for blacks/whites who do this on a large scale?

In other words, is voting based on race alone, wrong, and if it is, why are white people flamed for it, but black people aren't?

That's a fair anwser. This isn't a flame Obama thread, it's an anti-racism thread, I hate racism against black and white people.

A nice derogatory response there Zen. On the other side of things, I don't want to debate you on "Omg Obama only gets vote because he's black".

There is no ideology to debate, prejudice is prejucide.  I wouldn't go as far to say racism, unless they were voting for Obama because Hilary was white and their hatred for that gender.

However I'll be very much glad as soon as there has been a "first black president" as it just gets all of this bull out of the way.

Zenophobe, please, get a clue.

Bill Clinton, Gore and Kerry each earned close to 90 percent of the black vote. Do you know WHY they earned that much? They're Dems. Bush got less than 8-9 percent of the black vote. Blacks rarely vote GOP. They don't agree with the GOP, they have been shafted by the GOP for years.

And yes, they have a very, very long memory. Remember that bag Strom Thurmond? The one that filibustered against civil rights, yet got his creep on with a black woman? He was a Dixiecrat - a Dem at once, but the attitude has always been Republican.

No candidate of the GOP will capture more of the black vote unless he/she can connect with the blacks. I am not talking about Condi/Clarence Thomas/Alan Keyes/insert your favorite black GOP star here - I'm talking about someone who either spent time in the streets helping or being helped - to lure them.

Ever been to a black precinct when voting started? I have. And the GOP religiously counts out the black vote. They overlook the black vote - they bank on getting none of the black vote. Just look at the GOP candidates who wanted to go to Howard for a presidential debate there. Only Ron Paul and a fewer other lesser knowns wanted to go. The front runners? Forget it.

Any Dem will capture that many blacks based on how the Dems have treated them. If New Orleans was a GOP stronghold, the mess with Katrina would have never happened under Bush's watch. Trust me on that ...