Is this thread a SNL skit? Islamic terrorists started a war last October, or are you living under a rock? Paging hezbollas is just one of many results of that. Of course innocent people are going to die on both sides, they always do, or did you think wars are fought only in galaxies far far away?

The "war" didn't start in October, and Israel are bigger terrorists than their most depraved enemies.

They

? Oh wait that's the islamist terrorists.

Got any proof of that or are you just spreading dehumanizing propaganda.


Incidentally there is proof of Israel systematically torturing 'prisoners' in the state sanctioned torture camps, including showing metal rods up prisoner's rectums. Torture, starvation and deploreable living conditions have lead to about 60 deaths of 'prisoners' since Oct 7. (Although the fate of many people 'disappeared' from Gaza still remains unknown. Now and then Israel dumps a container of bodies back in Gaza)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68780112 (That was the tally in April)

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/07/1152681 (end of July)

At least 53 Palestinian detainees have died in Israeli military facilities and prisons since 7 October.

https://www.btselem.org/publications/202408_welcome_to_hell

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/08/israels-escalating-use-torture-against-palestinians-custody-preventable

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-sexual-abuse-palestinian-prisoners-rcna165811

US says ‘no justification for rape' after video shows Israeli soldiers raping Palestinian detainee

It didn't start on Oct 7 either, 187 deaths in detention since 1967.

https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/104913

The report said that the Israeli Government is the only government in the world provides legal cover for the fatal and illegal torture in its prisons.

With Israel, every accusation is an admission.

It’s not that everyone is wrong except you; it’s that you might have a limited understanding of the conflict and have developed biases based on this limited knowledge. This is why you believe you know more than everyone else in this thread, despite demonstrating limited knowledge.

If you want to catch up to the other commenters, you should start with this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict.

Second, terrorism should not be tolerated. Whoever is responsible for booby-trapping these devices is committing terrorism and violating international law (https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule80). If agents within Israel are responsible, it’s Israel’s duty to prosecute and sentence them and their co-conspirators, even if they include leaders of the ruling Likud party. Since Israel is a Western ally, it’s also the West’s responsibility to ensure Israel prosecutes terrorists within their ranks.

Others have already replied with most of what I was going to say, so I'll ask this instead.

If phones and tablets start exploding in western countries because 'you' "started a proxy war" against Russia by funding Ukraine, and it blows off both of your hands and your mothers eyes, are you going to have that same energy?

You may not have heard of it, but there are laws even in war. And there is such a thing as war crimes.
We have these concepts for good reasons. One of those apply to Israel unlocking a new form of terrorist attacks that others may very well copy.

But "funding Ukraine" is a flimsy analogy there.  A stronger hypothetical would be to imagine a quasi-private mercenary crew with NATO ties indiscriminately firing rockets into Russian civilian populations for weeks on end.  Russia then responds by overheating phones & tablets of what their intelligence says are NATO-tied targets.  Even if some innocents are also harmed as a result, I'm not going to pretend this attack came out of nowhere.  I'd still be livid towards Russia permanently maiming and/or blinding my mom, but I'm also going to curse those mercenaries who knowingly goaded that response as well.

This isn't a broader defense to every military action Israel has done since 10/7, mind you.  Just that example.

I used that analogy because that is something that has already happened that Russia can use as "justification" to apply the same kind of terror on western nations. And it would be paired with comments (verified or not) of horrific acts that have occured as a result of that war, or what 'forced' Russia to invade. It can be carried out by a middle eastern organisation as payback for bombing civilians. Etc.

A 1:1 scenario doesn't need to happen for someone to copy this. Especially when Israel's response in force is to apply 1000+ times more damage than they sustained.

I'm not focusing on the justifications for retaliation. It's mostly irrelevant, other than the fact that the aggressor will have some sort of excuse for it, internally.

I'm focusing on this type of terror attack.
They should never have done this. For the civilians that died, were injured, or survived and now fear being near any electronics every day 24/7. And for the rest of us if someone copies this and it spreads to other nations, for whatever reason they see as justifiable.

Wow you still continue to surprise me.  After a dozen posts in this thread pointing a finger at Israel for the pagers you ask for proof of bad things happening during the October 7th peaceful protest and accuse someone else of spreading dehumanizing propaganda.  very well done you are a special kind of special

You still believe Biden saw 40 beheaded babies? People playing football with cut off breasts? Babies in ovens? Children hanging from clothes lines? Systematic rape campaign?

It has all been debunked, proven to be lies. All embellishment to dehumanize an entire population to justify the unjustifiable, genocide.

Horrible things happened on October 7 but not "cut out childrens' eyes in front of their parents and rape women to death with metal rods". That's hate filled propaganda, trying to justify genocide.

So yes, I ask for proof for "cut out childrens' eyes in front of their parents and rape women to death with metal rods"

Those are serious accusations, used by many people to turn a blind eye to what's happening in Gaza, the West Bank, Israeli prisons and now Lebanon.