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Forums - Sales Discussion - Astro-Bot or Zelda EoW? Clash of the 2024 September Titans

 

Which will sell more? Which will perform better with critics?

Astro Bot (Sales & Critical Reception) 20 20.83%
 
Zelda (Sales & Critical Reception) 32 33.33%
 
Astro Bot (Sales), Zelda (Critical Reception) 3 3.13%
 
Astro Bot (Critical Reception), Zelda (Sales) 41 42.71%
 
Total:96

Poor Asstrobot, only sold 1.5 Mil in 58 days, Zelda destroyed it in just 5! Keep dreaming Sony hopefuls! Mhwahahar! Facts.

Last edited by Zyphe - on 08 November 2024

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IcaroRibeiro said:

I think Astro is still slightly bellow 2 million copies

Tracking for it in UK was slightly above Ratchet Rift Apart, which sold 1.1 million in first month

I missed the mark for about half million, I was thinking on something like 1.8-1.9 million 



curl-6 said:

Astro Bot has sold 1.5 million as of November 3rd, so in a little under 2 months:

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/463015/astro-bot-sales-top-15-million-units/

Echoes by contrast was at 2.58m (shipped + digital) in its first 5 days:

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/462985/switch-ships-14604-million-units-as-of-september-2024/

These are criminal figures for Astro. Sony’s most critically acclaimed first-party release *of all time* (according to OpenCritic) can’t even crack 2mil? The Sony base needs to get their priorities straightened out, this is insanity. I knew launch figures would be low, but not this low.

These numbers will explode with the holiday season, I have no doubt. I remain optimistic for Astro.

Last edited by firebush03 - on 08 November 2024

According to Chris Dring, Astro Bot sold more than Kirby the forgotten land in the UK during their launch periods. So that means that the UK was likely a massive outliner due to how dominant Playstation is there compared to Nintendo, while Kirby outsold Astro Bot pretty much everywhere else.



HoloDust said:
killer7 said:

Just go to youtube. People over there swore it would be the "Mario of the future". There would be even underware, T Shirts, all stuff of merchant. Astro kart, Astro Tennis, Astro brawler, Tennis, Golf... So many crazy ideas. The most interesting comment i read is that there would be something like Super Nintendo World, just from Sony and Astro would be the main attraction. 

I mean thats like comparing Justin Bieber (Astro Bot) to the Rolling Stones (Mario)🤣

No 3D Mario ever sold 30 millions, let alone new IP on a platform that is not known for such audience to sell 40 millions.

As I said, crazy talk.

I never said that. The best selling 3D Mario is Odeysey with 28,50 million i think (?). It could get there. I was only refering to some funny people claiming Astro would wipe the floor with Mario (youtube comments), yet it is on track with Mario Kart 8 for WiiU. I do not think anyone including me expected numbers this low.



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killer7 said:
HoloDust said:

No 3D Mario ever sold 30 millions, let alone new IP on a platform that is not known for such audience to sell 40 millions.

As I said, crazy talk.

I never said that. The best selling 3D Mario is Odeysey with 28,50 million i think (?). It could get there. I was only refering to some funny people claiming Astro would wipe the floor with Mario (youtube comments), yet it is on track with Mario Kart 8 for WiiU. I do not think anyone including me expected numbers this low.

It was always delusional, only a small fraction of the PS user base will buy games like Astro Bot, the only thing that sells on a big way there is Sony AAA games as well as big multiplats like CoD.



Sephiran said:
killer7 said:

I never said that. The best selling 3D Mario is Odeysey with 28,50 million i think (?). It could get there. I was only refering to some funny people claiming Astro would wipe the floor with Mario (youtube comments), yet it is on track with Mario Kart 8 for WiiU. I do not think anyone including me expected numbers this low.

It was always delusional, only a small fraction of the PS user base will buy games like Astro Bot, the only thing that sells on a big way there is Sony AAA games as well as big multiplats like CoD.

I was not refering to you, but there was a huge portion of people in forums who swore it would outclass Mario. This is why some people look very stupid if their prediction fails when they swear it will be.  (game/ console a will 100% outsell game/ console b).



killer7 said:
Sephiran said:

It was always delusional, only a small fraction of the PS user base will buy games like Astro Bot, the only thing that sells on a big way there is Sony AAA games as well as big multiplats like CoD.

I was not refering to you, but there was a huge portion of people in forums who swore it would outclass Mario. This is why some people look very stupid if their prediction fails when they swear it will be.  (game/ console a will 100% outsell game/ console b).

Not to sound rude, but I think some attention is needed on comprehension here

People comparing Astro to Mario =/= People saying Astro will outsell Mario. I'd love to see an actual post where people have suggested sales of the kind, only that it could be an evergreen like Mario is.

If we're talking reception its 94 metacritic is just shy of Odyssey's 97, so its actually very competitive



Otter said:
Sephiran said:

No its not confirmed that Astro Bot sold more than Echoes of Wisdom in the west. All we know is that digital and physical sales over a longer period of time were higher for Astro Bot than just physical sales for Echoes of Wisdom. In all likelihood Echoes of Wisdom sold more in the west as well, and we will get that confirmation at a later date anyway.

Sony first party games don't outsell Nintendo first party games in general, so it would be impossible for Astro Bot, a small Sony IP to outsell a bigger Nintendo IP like Zelda, it hasn't happened in the entire Switch generation. The reason is simple; Playstation is a Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed and FIFA machine, while people buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games.

This is a pretty silly argument to make.

Helldivers was a smaller IP until it had a breakout hit and sold 12m in 12 weeks.

Astro "outsold pretty much every platformer besides Mario" in its openning month in Europe. So it is a breakout hit in its genre, a genre that relies on legs rather than big openings.

Now I think almost everyone is expecting Zelda to have a stronger start, I don't think we need to continually reiterate the obvious that Zelda is a bigger IP. 

But non-mainline Zelda is not some crazy seller. A Links Awakening was last recorded at <7m... Ratchet and Clank 2016 has sold 7m. Equally Hyrule Warriors has been outsold by Rift Apart.

History favours Zelda winning this race, but there are many variables that could see Astro outpacing it not only Lifetime but even this Christmas. There will be no conclusion to this topic yet and words like "impossible" simply do not apply. 

Helldivers released on PlayStation and Steam simultaneously, and sold more on Steam, where online shooters are VERY popular. Also, if Astro didn't sell more than every platformer outside of Mario I would consider it a Concord level of failure lol, can you name any other AAA 3D platformer in the year of our lord 2024? All we have is indie titles made for a market niche.

Last edited by TheRealSamusAran - on 08 November 2024

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