respectfully, (i) Do you see the amount of detail I'm putting into each response? I can't be firing these out once every ten minutes. These take a while, please be patient. I actually just posted one discussing education, but gave up midway bc it's taking a little bit longer than I want it to. (ii) I'm sorry about my past behavior. Can you please forgive me, and move on from this quoting of all my comments?

"Observe, however, that amidst all this relatively sympathetic speaking, Kamala is very clear in expressing her interest in ensuring that "Israel has the right to defend itself"

Is this meant to be a bad thing? I despise Netanyahu but yes Israel has the right to defend itself, it does not have the right to willy-nilly bomb whatever the fuck it wants to and go on a mass slaughter of Palestinians don't act like Hamas is innocent, they've done horrific terrorist actions as well, lets not forget Israel is surrounded by enemies too, Syria to the North and Hezbollah in Lebanon and Iran (and its proxies like the terrorist Houthi organisation) would love nothing more than to see Israel turned to rubble so yes, Israel has the right to defend itself.

Hamas, Houthis, Hezbollah are all extremist factions, Syria and Iran are led by extremists, Netanyahu is an extremist too. We should stop offensive support to Israel as they use it with little care of who they kill. Not all Palestinians are Hamas, not all Hamas are Palestinians, but I do not believe we should stop defensive support, I do believe Netanyahu needs to fuck off though and someone else needs to take control of Israel cause that dude escalates every chance he gets.

yep, that's why I asked for the original person to give me their stances so that I could discuss the differences. They said "No, you explain why they're the same" and I did just that. This was an inevitable consequence. If you want me to discuss the differences, I don't know them, so you're gonna have to give them to me.

I'm talking more about ignoring the subjects where the two parties are not the same. Like Ukraine. 

not gonna get into whether or not HAMAS is bad. All I can say is that it is ridiculous that Gaza has a death toll of more than 33x that of Israel in this "war", especially when Gaza has population a fraction of the size of that of Israel. In principle, yes, I agree that all countries have the right to defend themselves. But this is just absurd...this is not defending, this is massacring. Netanyahu literally refers to the *Palestinians* (not HAMAS) as "Amelak" (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/benjamin-netanyahu-amalek-israel-palestine-gaza-saul-samuel-old-testament/), and if you don't know what this means, look up the verse. It's very straight forward to see what he's saying here.

if you knew my history here, you would know why I'm avoid Ukraine for now. I can talk about it in a few days, but not now. I also can't respond to everything. (remember when I said that "I have a life" and then proceeded to be told that nobody cares how long it takes? Yeah, this is what I meant...y'all are saying "so you convieniently don't have time to respond to all these other points" like yeah, I don't.)

Y'all, I'm sorry for my past. Please, let's just move forward and have a discussion. It still very a little hostile in here. Some of you seem to be open, but others are not.

(I'll see you guys maybe later today or sometime tmr. Gotta get back to work. :) )

That's fair.

I also fully agree with the rest.

It looks like it is going to be Shapiro or Walz. I fully believe Shapiro is the best choice between the two but Walz is so damn likeable. I won't be upset if he is chosen.

Okay, I may have misunderstood your point because I do agree this isn't "defence" and more a massacre of Palestinians and I've expressed anger multiple times that Ukraine has more rules and restrictions enforced on it by the West against a much larger and stronger enemy, than Israel has enforced on it by the West against a much smaller and weaker enemy (Hamas). But they need to be able to defend themselves too, I think we can say that and make the distinction that defence does not mean slaughter everyone in sight, they need to be able to defend themselves against attack because they are surrounded by countries that want them dead.

But I do not believe Hamas nor Netanyahu give a fuck about how many innocents have to die in their zealot war, I believe they both need and want the war to continue as long as possible because they both hold on to power due to the war and the moment this war stops, neither have a purpose to exist anymore in their current political sphere, I don't think either side is interested in ending the war but Israel is the stronger side and they are going on a genocide of Palestinians so yeah, I hate Netanyahu but Hamas isn't innocent, Hamas is a terrorist organisation.

I'd stop all offensive aid because Israel is slaughtering whoever they feel like and trying their best to escalate things.

First of all, Harris isn't President. She has no power over foreign policy over Israel at the moment, so it isn't really accurate to portray current policy as Kamala's policy. She has made it pretty clear that she is more critical of Israel than Biden and seems more willing to enforce consequences against Israel than Biden. You admit that there is a clear difference between the positions that Harris expresses and the positions Trump expresses. That should be the end of this conversation. The two are objectively not identical. 

That said, even Biden is markedly different from Trump. He has been central in the push to get aid into Gaza. Even before this war, when Trump was President, Trump halted humanitarian aid into Gaza. One of the first things Biden did as President was restore that aid. As the war went on, repeatedly, funding was provided for humanitarian aid due to the pressure from Democrats which was resisted by Republicans. These millions of dollars of aid simply would not have come if Trump had his way. Gaza is already struggling under a food crisis. Allowing Trump to gain power would objectively make that worse. Biden also was central to efforts to get this aid into Gaza, taking actions such as Air Dropping aid and negotiating to allow aid to enter through Israel controlled border checkpoints. 

As far as actual military support of Israel, I personally would like Biden to go further in resisting Israel's killing of innocent civilians. That said, they have pushed back publicly against some of the actions of Israel and have withheld certain munitions and threatened to withhold additional munitions if a certain red line were to be crossed. 

We can also look further into Trump's presidency to see some of the more controversial actions he had taken, which likely wouldn't have happened under Democratic leadership. Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem, both very controversial actions which inflamed tensions. Further, Trump officially recognized the Golan Heights as part of Israel. Golan Heights is disputed territory which is illegally being settled by Israel in violation of international law. One of these settlements was named "Trump Heights" in acknowledgement on Donald Trump.

EDIT: Quick side note in relation to one minor comment you've made: "The damage has already been done". While a lot of damage has been done, there are still a hell of a lot of people suffering in Gaza. This decision has the power to save some of their lives. The damage isn't just in the past, it is also in the future if we don't choose to act. Step one of that action is voting for Harris. Step two is getting out and pressuring her to do what is best for the people of Gaza. Another massive difference between the two is that Harris can be pressured by voices on the left advocating for peace. Trump will probably just send more bombs if the left tries to pressure him. 

Sources:
Palestinian aid emerges as sticking point in supplemental talks - Roll Call
Biden signs bill that includes funding for Israel, aid for Gaza - The Washington Post
U.S. restores assistance for Palestinians, to provide $235 million in aid | Reuters
El-Sisi and Biden agree to send aid to Gaza via Karem Abu Salem crossing | Israel-Palestine conflict News | Al Jazeera
Why Biden administration says Israel hasn't crossed a red line on Rafah | AP News
President Donald J. Trump Keeps His Promise To Open U.S. Embassy In Jerusalem, Israel – The White House (archives.gov)
Proclamation on Recognizing the Golan Heights as Part of the State of Israel – The White House (archives.gov)

You skipped discussing LGBTQ+ issues.

You did a really poor job at explaining why they're the same in education here as well...Pointing out that Biden has tried to do things which have been stalled by a Republican House, that Biden has forgiven $168bn in loans but under Republicans that number would be $0.