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The majority of those channels push the left wing side MORE often than the right.



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BFR said:

The majority of those channels push the left wing side MORE often than the right.

Facebook? Feel like you're starting to reach when you toss in social media sites. And it's not just about reach, it's about how vociferously they push for one or the other. On one side you have Fox who was sued for lying for Trump's benefit and Twitter where the CEO is full throatedly supporting Trump. If Zuckerberg had supported Biden or Harris like Musk supports Trump those on the right would lose their minds but I'm supposed to believe that the scales are balanced. 



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the-pi-guy said:
EricHiggin said:

- There is no deal Dems would make. 'Brown Bear Man' is almost as bad as 'Orange Man', which means block or ignore them at all costs. AT ALL COST$.

I didn't ask what deal Democrats would make, I asked what deal could possibly be made.

No Putin is a lot worse. He kills and arrests his political enemies. Which Trump hasn't done yet, and hopefully won't. 

EricHiggin said:

- Thanks for adding this, because now we can ignore Russia again.... WTF.... LOL.

Why does everything have to be so black and white with you? The world is complex. If you're going to try boiling everything down to simple answers, you're going to be wrong most of the time. 


Russia has a fraction of the economy of the US, they have worse weapons, and a worse military. 


None of this means that Russia can be ignored. Russia has a vested interest in manipulating the United States. If the US is led well, Russia isn't particularly a threat. If the US isn't, they can be a huge threat.

EricHiggin said:

- Excuses. The economy is great only means something to the voter if they're benefitting, so they'd have to be truly dense or purposely lying to say that.

It's not an excuse. 

It's about recognizing the complex reality, and how much of it is not designed for the average person. Actual left wingers want to redesign these things for the average person. Liberals are generally okay with the status quo, and right wingers generally want to break it down even further in favor of the rich.

- What details matter if they wouldn't be entertained? No deal means NO DEAL, PERIOD.  Biden attempted the arrests, but failed.

- Russia isn't attacking America, it's attacking Ukraine, and Russia compared to Ukraine?

- The new right, MAGA, isn't the general norm, and neither is the present left.



BFR said:

The majority of those channels push the left wing side MORE often than the right.

You’re comparing right wing propaganda to media with a liberal lean, not the same.

Right wing media spend the months leading up to the election pushing lies like Haitians are stealing and eating pets and FEMA was actively sabotaging hurricane relief efforts.

On the other hand, the “liberal mainstream media” would sanewash the absolutely insane shit Trump was saying in an effort to not appear biased.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Torillian said:
BFR said:

The majority of those channels push the left wing side MORE often than the right.

Facebook? Feel like you're starting to reach when you toss in social media sites. 

I only added in FB at the end of the post in reply to him saying:  "If you ignore right wing radio, and right wing internet media."

FB is left wing social media.



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EricHiggin said:

- What details matter if they wouldn't be entertained? No deal means NO DEAL, PERIOD.  Biden attempted the arrests, but failed.

You're the one telling me that Trump is going to make a deal. What deal do you think he's making?

EricHiggin said:

- Russia isn't attacking America, it's attacking Ukraine, and Russia compared to Ukraine?

It's not particularly going well for Russia, as long as Ukraine is being backed by the US and Europe. 

EricHiggin said:

- The new right, MAGA, isn't the general norm, and neither is the present left.

I didn't say the right is the general norm. 

I said right wingers want to break down the general norm, in a way that mostly helps the rich, and MAGA is absolutely continuing that. 



zorg1000 said:
BFR said:

The majority of those channels push the left wing side MORE often than the right.

You’re comparing right wing propaganda to media with a liberal lean, not the same.

Right wing media spend the months leading up to the election pushing lies like Haitians are stealing and eating pets and FEMA was actively sabotaging hurricane relief efforts.

On the other hand, the “liberal mainstream media” would sanewash the absolutely insane shit Trump was saying in an effort to not appear biased.

Are you saying Fox News, the #1 news channel in the USA, is right wing propaganda?

But didn't Trump say this about them?

Trump says ‘Fox News is not our friend,’ claims it’s airing ‘Democrat ads’

https://thehill.com/media/4968450-trump-fox-news-not-our-friend-claiming-its-airing-democrat-ads/



BFR said:
zorg1000 said:

You’re comparing right wing propaganda to media with a liberal lean, not the same.

Right wing media spend the months leading up to the election pushing lies like Haitians are stealing and eating pets and FEMA was actively sabotaging hurricane relief efforts.

On the other hand, the “liberal mainstream media” would sanewash the absolutely insane shit Trump was saying in an effort to not appear biased.

Are you saying Fox News, the #1 news channel in the USA, is right wing propaganda?

But didn't Trump say this about them?

Trump says ‘Fox News is not our friend,’ claims it’s airing ‘Democrat ads’

https://thehill.com/media/4968450-trump-fox-news-not-our-friend-claiming-its-airing-democrat-ads/

What do you call a network that had to pay out 800 million dollars because they lied about the 2020 election for the Right's benefit? And to an above post: how is Facebook left wing media? I missed when Zuckerberg hopped like a dumbass at a Harris rally, paid out millions to help her win, and was promise power over the government for his troubles. 



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the-pi-guy said:
EricHiggin said:

- What details matter if they wouldn't be entertained? No deal means NO DEAL, PERIOD.  Biden attempted the arrests, but failed.

You're the one telling me that Trump is going to make a deal. What deal do you think he's making?

EricHiggin said:

- Russia isn't attacking America, it's attacking Ukraine, and Russia compared to Ukraine?

It's not particularly going well for Russia, as long as Ukraine is being backed by the US and Europe. 

EricHiggin said:

- The new right, MAGA, isn't the general norm, and neither is the present left.

I didn't say the right is the general norm. 

I said right wingers want to break down the general norm, in a way that mostly helps the rich, and MAGA is absolutely continuing that. 

- Well if Biden and Harris didn't make any, it must mean the, only, option, is another forever war, unfortunately...

- That's not what Ukraine seems to think. Key words, AS LONG AS... so another forever war and endless spending?...

- The right is now Progressive, but not Progressive? Poor and middle class MAGA blue collars want to enrich elite white collars? Wait what?...



Interesting.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/24/technology/mark-zuckerberg-trump-politics.html