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The way this dude speaks about a father spanking his daughter is FUCKING CREEPY AND WEIRD.

"Dad is pissed!" "You've been a bad little girl and you're getting a vigorous spanking" "It's going to hurt you a lot more than it hurts me" "You earned this" "You're getting a vigorous spanking because you've been a bad girl"

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

I need to ram a screwdriver into both my ears after listening to this.

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Wall Street Journal has trump up 2% in general polls.



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Lul.



Lol, I head over to Twitter, immediately see some bullshit "KamalaGropedMe" trending, multiple accounts posting the exact same wording, likely Russian bots. Alright...Oh and there's a big "Art of the Surge" a Donald Trump re-election ad plastered at the top of my "What's Happening" so I click "Don't want to see this ad", it doesn't go away, so I click it again, and again, and again, refreshing, etc. Still reappears, Lmao.

Elon Musk...



The Republicans from Wisconsin endorsing Harris are making me believe they see something, especially because they're both currently serving, it may be nothing but it's boosting my optimism for Wisconsin specifically. It has been risky for Republicans in the past to endorse Democrats, especially due to the insane MAGA cult.

Anyway...

Donald Trump is truly focusing on the issues that matter to everyday Americans, whether the person in the bathroom has a penis or not /s.

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Jaicee said:

Alright, I voted for Kamala Harris and Colin Allred yesterday in what was the easiest vote of my life, so if the alternatives win, it won't be my fault. If current early voting trends hold though, Trump will win, and I don't just mean Texas, so if you're an American then please get your ass in gear and go vote if you haven't already! (Except if you're a MAGA Republican. Then you can stay home.)

I would take that with a very large grain of salt. The article's source is a "journalist" from Newsmax, so I would not put it past him to lie.

Moreover, they specifically mention Nevada as one of two states. The problem with that is that Nevada is not typical. While Democrats usually win big in mail in/early voting, Nevada is a state that is almost all mail in voting. So, you would not expect the mail in vote to lean much one way or the other. It's also important to note that in Nevada, most of the vote, and most of the Democratic vote, will come from one county, Clark County, so who is up or down will likely depend on which counties have counted most at this point.

The other big issue is that of course, 2020 was a very different time cause of the whole Covid thing. It is quite possible, and I'd go so far as to say likely, that many Democrats who would have otherwise voted on election day voted early or by mail. I would not expect the same kind of gap we saw in 2020. That said, Democrats have been outvoting Republicans substantially so far in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, and it is somewhat telling that those states are not mentioned in the article. 

I would not be too concerned by that article. There is a definite effort my Republicans to create a Trump is winning narrative so if he loses they can make another case for a stolen election. I think this is part of that. 



JWeinCom said:
Jaicee said:

Alright, I voted for Kamala Harris and Colin Allred yesterday in what was the easiest vote of my life, so if the alternatives win, it won't be my fault. If current early voting trends hold though, Trump will win, and I don't just mean Texas, so if you're an American then please get your ass in gear and go vote if you haven't already! (Except if you're a MAGA Republican. Then you can stay home.)

I would take that with a very large grain of salt. The article's source is a "journalist" from Newsmax, so I would not put it past him to lie.

Moreover, they specifically mention Nevada as one of two states. The problem with that is that Nevada is not typical. While Democrats usually win big in mail in/early voting, Nevada is a state that is almost all mail in voting. So, you would not expect the mail in vote to lean much one way or the other. It's also important to note that in Nevada, most of the vote, and most of the Democratic vote, will come from one county, Clark County, so who is up or down will likely depend on which counties have counted most at this point.

The other big issue is that of course, 2020 was a very different time cause of the whole Covid thing. It is quite possible, and I'd go so far as to say likely, that many Democrats who would have otherwise voted on election day voted early or by mail. I would not expect the same kind of gap we saw in 2020. That said, Democrats have been outvoting Republicans substantially so far in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, and it is somewhat telling that those states are not mentioned in the article. 

I would not be too concerned by that article. There is a definite effort my Republicans to create a Trump is winning narrative so if he loses they can make another case for a stolen election. I think this is part of that. 

Arizona is another state where most people vote by mail, thanks to the fact that the state is very sparsely populated outside of five or six urban areas. Trump is up by 2 there in overall polls, yet Gallego is up by 8 points over Kari Lake. I don't get the disconnect. The majority of voters clearly understand that Lake is not fit for office, yet they don't apply that to Trump. Lake has deliberately made herself a female carbon copy of Trump (TV personality, conspiracy theories, and baseless claims of election fraud.) She was also a frequent guest at Mar-a-Lago and received numerous Trump endorsements both in the governor's race and the Senate. She lost by a razor-thin margin to Katie Hobbs in the 2022 gubernatorial election and is getting curb-stomped by Gallego after two years of claiming widespread voter fraud. Yet they still vote Trump. 



Ryuu96 said:

The Republicans from Wisconsin endorsing Harris are making me believe they see something, especially because they're both currently serving, it may be nothing but it's boosting my optimism for Wisconsin specifically. It has been risky for Republicans in the past to endorse Democrats, especially due to the insane MAGA cult.

Anyway...

Truly focusing on the issues that matter to everyday Americans, whether a person is trans or not.

Even if fewer voters care about trans issues than the economy, it could be that those who do care about issues are much more passionate about it, and can be more easily driven to vote. Hatred towards minority groups has sadly been an effective motivator. I honestly don't think it will work, but we'll see.

Another factor you have to consider is that Trump has put people in charge of his campaign that may not be the most politically savvy. Elon Musk has a lot of influence, Lara Trump is in charge of the RNC, etc. There are a lot of odd decisions being made recently (see McDonalds). It could be that people who get most of their information from a social media echochamber are a bit out of touch with what most voters really care about. 

As for Republicans more and more pulling for Harris, the question is why. One reason could be that they fear Trump is going to win... but I'm a bit skeptical. Trump has been awful forever so if that was their motivation, why now and not 1, 2, 4, or 8 years ago. 

Another potential explanation is that they are rats fleeing the ship. Perhaps they see in their state that the winds are blowing against Trump. If Trump loses their will be an internal war in the party, and I perhaps they feel that having spoken out against Trump will benefit them in that struggle. 



SanAndreasX said:
JWeinCom said:

I would take that with a very large grain of salt. The article's source is a "journalist" from Newsmax, so I would not put it past him to lie.

Moreover, they specifically mention Nevada as one of two states. The problem with that is that Nevada is not typical. While Democrats usually win big in mail in/early voting, Nevada is a state that is almost all mail in voting. So, you would not expect the mail in vote to lean much one way or the other. It's also important to note that in Nevada, most of the vote, and most of the Democratic vote, will come from one county, Clark County, so who is up or down will likely depend on which counties have counted most at this point.

The other big issue is that of course, 2020 was a very different time cause of the whole Covid thing. It is quite possible, and I'd go so far as to say likely, that many Democrats who would have otherwise voted on election day voted early or by mail. I would not expect the same kind of gap we saw in 2020. That said, Democrats have been outvoting Republicans substantially so far in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, and it is somewhat telling that those states are not mentioned in the article. 

I would not be too concerned by that article. There is a definite effort my Republicans to create a Trump is winning narrative so if he loses they can make another case for a stolen election. I think this is part of that. 

Arizona is another state where most people vote by mail, thanks to the fact that the state is very sparsely populated outside of five or six urban areas. Trump is up by 2 there in overall polls, yet Gallego is up by 8 points over Kari Lake. I don't get the disconnect. The majority of voters clearly understand that Lake is not fit for office, yet they don't apply that to Trump. Lake has deliberately made herself a female carbon copy of Trump (TV personality, conspiracy theories, and baseless claims of election fraud.) She was also a frequent guest at Mar-a-Lago and received numerous Trump endorsements both in the governor's race and the Senate. She lost by a razor-thin margin to Katie Hobbs in the 2022 gubernatorial election and is getting curb-stomped by Gallego after two years of claiming widespread voter fraud. Yet they still vote Trump. 

Think Abortion is widely supported in Arizona too and yet Trump is up on polls, which is like, shooting yourself in the foot, Lol.



SanAndreasX said:
JWeinCom said:

I would take that with a very large grain of salt. The article's source is a "journalist" from Newsmax, so I would not put it past him to lie.

Moreover, they specifically mention Nevada as one of two states. The problem with that is that Nevada is not typical. While Democrats usually win big in mail in/early voting, Nevada is a state that is almost all mail in voting. So, you would not expect the mail in vote to lean much one way or the other. It's also important to note that in Nevada, most of the vote, and most of the Democratic vote, will come from one county, Clark County, so who is up or down will likely depend on which counties have counted most at this point.

The other big issue is that of course, 2020 was a very different time cause of the whole Covid thing. It is quite possible, and I'd go so far as to say likely, that many Democrats who would have otherwise voted on election day voted early or by mail. I would not expect the same kind of gap we saw in 2020. That said, Democrats have been outvoting Republicans substantially so far in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, and it is somewhat telling that those states are not mentioned in the article. 

I would not be too concerned by that article. There is a definite effort my Republicans to create a Trump is winning narrative so if he loses they can make another case for a stolen election. I think this is part of that. 

Arizona is another state where most people vote by mail, thanks to the fact that the state is very sparsely populated outside of five or six urban areas. Trump is up by 2 there in overall polls, yet Gallego is up by 8 points over Kari Lake. I don't get the disconnect. The majority of voters clearly understand that Lake is not fit for office, yet they don't apply that to Trump. Lake has deliberately made herself a female carbon copy of Trump (TV personality, conspiracy theories, and baseless claims of election fraud.) She was also a frequent guest at Mar-a-Lago and received numerous Trump endorsements both in the governor's race and the Senate. She lost by a razor-thin margin to Katie Hobbs in the 2022 gubernatorial election and is getting curb-stomped by Gallego after two years of claiming widespread voter fraud. Yet they still vote Trump. 

I've thought about that and here are a couple of suggestions. 

1. The polls are wrong. We know that there are a lot of Republican pollsters putting out a lot of Presidential polls, but not so much in the Senate races. If we assume that the presidential polls are being skewed, or at least less skewed, then we would expect to see Democrats looking better in those races. It is worth noting that as far as I can tell in the 2020 election the results for the Senate races almost all were very close to the presidential results. When there was a difference, the Senate candidates generally outperformed Trump from what I can tell.

2. The second hypothesis is that it is easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled. Once people have voted for Trump, in some cases twice, they feel obligated to defend that position. Even if they otherwise would be opposed to the Maga bullshit, they just can't admit they got conned, so they rationalize. But they don't feel like they are committed to the Senate candidates in the same way. 

Time will tell. But I feel like the Senate race numbers and the presidential numbers cannot both be right.