JFK never got the chance, and LBJ didn't try for a second term (because his war was so unpopular), making Bush the first war-time president to truly fail at reelection (though LBJ certainly would've lost)

-The way most of the public see's this is kinda in a statute of limitations sorta deal but in a political manner. If the left really cared about bringing justice to Trump they would've gone after him immediately after Biden took power. The fact they waited until the 2024 election season tells everyone it's just a ploy for the Dems to keep power. They don't really care about what Trump did, if he did it, so nobody really cares. The left had their chance years ago but blew it by waiting. 

-Sounds a lot like turning a fire into an inferno, and what did that lead to? As for narcissists, how long before Biden drops out of the race or steps down from the Presidency? When the left is as unsure and divided as they are, which is more rare, because of Biden, and they, as well as Biden, care so much about saving Democracy, especially from Trump, why can't Joe just drop out of the race? Narcissism much?

-This point has some merit, as Trump didn't do a lot, but that's because he let the Professionals do their jobs, which they screwed up royally. The one thing Trump did do was push for the vax, which the Pro's called him a liar about, over and over, because they said it would take years and years before there was some kinda treatment available. The vax showed up by the end of the year like Trump said it would. Biden took over with the vax being available to the public already, plus with strains of covid that were much less lethal at that point, and even though Biden and Harris said they wouldn't take Trumps vax, they then did anyway, and tried to force everyone else to by threatening their jobs. Yet more people still died of covid under Biden before the pandemic was over vs Trump.

-Capital hill protest was planned well before Trump got on board. Trump did not cause the riots. If the right always thought what Trump meant was the same as what the left thought, and if what Trump said mattered so much to the right that they would just fall in line like sheep, then they also would've all been first in line to get the vax. Yet the hardest side to try to convince to get the vax were Conservatives by far.

What they're saying is the shooter had looked up info about Trump and Biden. Considering the people still saying how much of a threat Trump was, along with the growing number against Biden running since the debate, not to mention some who are saying both are to old and suck and shouldn't be running, what are the odds that the shooter planned or hoped to eventually take both of them out?

This lesser evil nonsense is really just that. Nonsense. The fact it's gone on this long is beyond belief. The fact that the US can't find at least one candidate that's somewhat acceptable enough to the other side is astounding. It screams how broken America really is.

Maybe someone, or many, should start to do something productive about it for once, and in a peaceful manner at that. It's just too bad that Americans are forced to vote. Always gotta do things the hard way I guess.

It is a bit ironic. You have some police with twitchy trigger fingers shooting/killing innocent people or criminals who didn't deserve to be shot, yet the SS can't take out a single shooter in time, aiming for a political candidate/President.

The difference is if the cop doesn't act soon enough, he or others may lose their lives, where as if the SS acted too soon, and weren't certain the person on the roof had a gun (aimed at Trump), it would've very likely ended Trumps chances at winning the election if they weren't armed.

Both scenario's are never ideal and will always have the possibility of ending in the worst way, some amount of the time. The hope is that it happens as little as possible. The world is a messy place unfortunately.

Ah yes, Bush Sr. He tends to be more forgettable for some reason.

I wasn't really being serious actually. Biden starting a war against Iran because of an attempt on Trump would be jumping the shark. Even though we seem to be at the point of literally anything is possible, this playing out would remove any hope or faith that America can truly change and move forward. That the war machine will continue to and will always be the war machine, first and foremost. War first, America second.

EricHiggin said:

Every single US Prez that's gone to war in their first term has gotten a second term haven't they?

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I answered your question, did I not? And now your saying your question was not serious?  If this is your demeanor in this forum, then why should any of us take the time to debate with you in all seriousness?  

I don't see why new information on the shooter should change anything. Going back to calling a spade a spade got green light as soon as the republicans abandoned their calls for unity. Which lasted for a day or so, therefore you are about two days late already when it comes to returning to business as usual.

oh bullshit. January 6 didn't end Trumps career and the secret service shooting someone under questionable circumstances would not have

either. You vastly over-estimate the level of care both Trump supporters and the american public would have about this.

You answered, though I didn't pose it to you, but I do appreciate getting an answer from someone. However, you both misunderstood and misunderstand.

Based on your answer you didn't entirely understand the question since JFK and LBJ wouldn't count, but you were right about Bush Sr and I thank you for pointing that out.

My question was serious, but the underlying possibility that Biden potentially starts a war with Iran and remains Prez, I did not consider serious. That's why my reply was split into two, so as to show separation between the question itself and the Biden point.

This was simply a question and answer situation, so I don't understand the need for your debate point. The forum isn't only for debate.

I get your frustration though. I also don't like to deal with others who don't seem to be serious enough when it comes to most political discussion. That was not the case here though.

Assuming the media was honest about what happened to start I guess. With recent headlines like Trump fell and was helped off stage by the SS, I can see why some amount of Americans may not really care at all. At least until they found out what was really going on. Then they certainly should care.

Americans wouldn't care about an innocent spectator getting gunned down though? Doesn't that go directly against the point you made prior, about innocent people being gunned down by police who made mistakes and how much of a problem that is, especially for certain demographics who have to deal with it? In both circumstances potential lives are at risk, so I don't see why Americans would care about one situation but not the other.

Uh no, it doesn't go against my point. how often do you hear about police being fired or prosecuted for a wrongful shooting ?