Ryuu96 said:
IkePoR said:
What rhetoric would that be exactly? Could you be more specific? Personally I can't think of a worse rhetoric than "this person is basically Hitler" and all the loose and not-so-loose references to him being killed the other side has mongered in the mainstream for eight years. I agree that truth should be what rhetoric should me measured on. The bitterness and cruelty I'm referencing is the open, zealous cries of demise for someone they don't like. I'd bet money most of the same ones wishing death on the man have no idea what he actually did as president, only that they feel a certain way, those feelings being installed by the same media that despises him. Republicans think democrats are wrong and the far left is evil in their eyes. The democrats think orange man bad because the tv told them and that he should die. Is that the clear difference? |
Tell that to Trump's Vice President. J.D. Vance Once Compared Trump To Hitler. There's a big difference between "Trump's going to destroy and/or weaken the institutions of Democracy" and "Trump is Hitler", heck even calling him a "fascist" is different than calling him "Hitler" in the sense that Hitler gassed millions of Jews and invaded half of Europe. I wouldn't call him Hitler, I'd call him a fascist who supports the 21st century Hitler though (Putin). I don't know what Americans are seeing but from what I'm seeing the media has treated Trump with kids gloves, Imho the media wants Trump back, why? Cause he's better for their bottom line, controversy causes clicks, that generates income, the NYT has been confirmed to purposely write negative articles on Biden because he wouldn't sit down with them for an interview, other members of media 2 years ago were complaining that Biden is too boring compared to Trump. Your last part is completely inaccurate and bias towards Republicans. According to you, Republicans think Democrats are wrong and that the far left is evil, based on their own intelligence but Democrats think Trump is bad because the TV told them, Lmao. The condescension is off the charts, I like how there's no mention of the far-right in your post, only the far-left seems to exist in your equation. And yes I dislike far-left too, the commie idiots who support Russia, can't say I can single out a single far-left politician in America though in both House and Senate, while I can easily pick out multiple far-right politicians in House and Senate such as JD Vance and Marjorie Taylor Greene (so far-right she was evicted from the Freedom Caucus) Republicans are currently demonising minorities, LGBTQ+ and aggressively targeting abortion, ripping away women's rights, Trump and his Vice President intend on turning America into an isolationist hellhole that backstabs its allies (unless you're called Israel, then you can bomb however many children you want) but everyone else? Fuck em. Trump's God awful handling of COVID got thousands killed. Project 2025 is linked to him in multiple ways (campaign staff, both former and current) and aims to weaken the Democratic institutions of America. |
Funny, the image defining facism on wikipedia is exactly of Hitler. I won't get into the psychology of that coloration. If he does support Putin, Putin has a funny way of showing it; he didn't move an inch until after Trump wasn't president anymore.
I don't follow the logic of wanting Trump - gaffe prone Biden and cringe prone Kamala are cinema.
The main reason I don't mention the far-right is because, well, they are either bad people who aren't politically affiliated, usually some chaotic nutjob on their own, but are Christian and love guns so they're grouped in to create a far-right. The other part of the far-right are usually decent people, with what are considered "outdated" beilefs - piously Christian and stupid and usually over 55. Personally, I don't recognize them either because the world is NEVER going back to the way of life they desire.
Reguardless of any of that, they don't outright wish someone would murder their opponents. Not publicly, anyway. In America, having any self-awareness, you know you can't even display your pride as republican(see the "coming out" threads online after the assassination attempt) without being condemned for not following the hive mind.
For much of your last paragraph, we simply butt-heads; I demonize people illegally crossing the boarder. I don't care if someone is gay but the goal-posting and constant and virile push of their sex lives and bodies is nauseating. I think abortions are barbaric and diabolical. I think killing babies is wrong... woman's rights? What about the babies rights?
I don't think anyone will be backstabbed, merely that if our allies want asylum embassies, they need to pay for them.
If you've noticed, the handling of COVID was terrible on both sides as well - Fauci misled the entire nation and lets face it, the world while pretending his words were from a burning bush.
Trump stated he's not involved with Project 2025, not sure what else you want him to do until he's president.
If you mean institutions like the FBI and IRS, he can't weaken them fast enough. The FBI are known liars and corrupt as they come and the IRS... is the IRS. I'd add the Secret Service to the list now too - useless lot that they are. First-class agents indeed.
There are incentives for corruption so long as there is capital - if he tried to cut into that pie, why... he'd be met with deadly force...