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Sooo... should we make a new Harris vs Trump thread... or possibly rename this thread?

Last edited by CosmicSex - on 21 July 2024

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Good to see a new face. Now to vote for whichever I hate less come November...



I'm not convinced Harris can beat Trump, she isn't exactly well liked. But it isn't like the DNC has time on their side after the horrid decision to re-run a guy we all knew had cognitive issues.

Going to be interesting.



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Shtinamin_ said:

Personally, as a Trump supporter for this election, I enjoy sources, I think it's great to get a view of what is happening.

My real question... WHY are you a Trump supporter?

* He is now a convicted criminal. - With more legal woes coming his way.
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1848/trump-hush-money-trial-34-counts

* He failed to build the wall. - It got downgraded to a fence in places.
https://www.theringer.com/2019/2/14/18224336/donald-trump-wall-mitch-mcconnell-fence

* He failed to get Mexico to pay for any part of the wall that got built, which he promised.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/30/politics/fact-check-trump-mexico-piece-border-wall/index.html

* He has constantly lied. I.E. Hillary should be "locked up" and then recently he stated he never said it in an interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS_Nrz5dNeU

* He tried to mount an insurrection and is now going to court over it with a verdict yet to be finalized.
https://www.politico.com/interactives/2023/trump-criminal-investigations-cases-tracker-list/

* Trump has promoted Nazism by proclaiming a fourth Reich.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/after-backlash-trump-pulls-social-media-post-with-reference-unified-reich-2024-05-21/

* Trumps father was part of the KKK white supremacists. Extreme racism. - This is Trumps role model.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2023/04/04/fred-trump-arrests/

* Trump has a long list of insults towards other people, organizations and entities... Yet will whinge like a child when the favor is returned and make statements like "No one has ever been treated the way I have!" - He literally treats others like it... That is a text-book narcissistic personality trait.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/19/upshot/trump-complete-insult-list.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9uunVX8wvY

Always treat others the way you wish to be treated.

So inquisitively, I ask you this... Why would you support this bottom feeder? The guy literally belongs in jail.

I can't even think of a single positive thing he has actually managed to accomplish for the USA during his presidency... Most of the planet outside of the USA thought he was a brilliant clown-act that just kept on giving.

Thanks for the sources!

I’ll try to be quick and concise with my answers because I’ve been and still am very busy with applying to medical school, school, finding jobs, dating, finances, etc. Thank you for being patient with me.

I think the simplest reason why I will be voting for Trump is because I have received revelation that I need to vote for him.

Yep, Trump is a criminal as of right now. 

He was able to get access to at least build something on the border.

Ok. Everyone knew that wouldn’t be possible. Do you bill your neighbor when you build the fence between the two of you? (Rhetorical)

Ok. Did he try to lock her up? No.

About the insurrection, Jan 6th. Trump posted these on Twitter.

January 6, 2021

19:38:58

Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!

Retweets: 107460

Favorites: 582183

January 6, 2021

20:13:26

I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!

Retweets: 156100

Favorites: 730357

January 6, 2021

21:17:24

https://t.co/Pm2PKV0Fp3 [APP Note: text of deleted video.]

Retweets: 0

Favorites: 0

January 6, 2021

23:01:04

These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever! 

Retweets: 0

Favorites: 0

Timestamp is UTC.

Ok. To me he was not promoting that, given that the quote used was a wiki quote about Prussia turning into Germany pre-WWI. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/after-backlash-trump-pulls-social-media-post-with-reference-unified-reich-2024-05-21/

Ok. Reading the article you provided, I see that it says that no one knows why Fred Trump was here. I do see that he was not charged of any crime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2023/04/04/fred-trump-arrests/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-father-kkk-1927/

He was 21, and 19 years later Donald Trump would be born. Honestly that is a lot of time for anyone to change character and become a better person. Personally, I’ve changed a lot in even one year.

Ok. He has definitely emboldened himself and makes things seem bigger than they ever were. He has insulted people who have belittled him, and insulted those who haven’t belittled him. Do I expect him to be perfect, no. Perfection in human interaction and character does not exist naturally in this world.

I do agree that we need to treat others how we want to be treated.

I will go back to what I said at the beginning of this post and to the beginning of this thread.

I have received revelation that I need to vote for him. I have received it because I have pondered over his political platform, his values he has now, and what he has, is and will give up to fight for what he believes in. After my pondering, I question and wait. And received the answer.

And that’s ok if you haven’t. I have. I noticed that we didn’t have any new wars that seem to never end. I noticed that I didn’t have to worry about my purchases on how expensive something was. I have seen that a lot of people around the world look back and wish for him to be the President again. I also see others who don’t want him, and that is okay, it is impossible to please everyone.

I do appreciate your questions and concerns. It is very important to communicate, even with those we might not understand or agree with. Without communication, people fester in their own personal/group and can become irrational.

Hmm, should I make a new thread considering Biden dropped out or should I wait for an official nominee after the DNC? Also President Biden dropping out of the 2024 presidential race was a surprise to me, he seemed so sure he wasn’t gonna drop out. I didn’t like what and how the news and other democratic leaders were pressuring him. It felt like a complete 180° from what they were doing.

Anyways, I hope this answered your question. If it didn’t, I will do my best to answer any more doubts, concerns, questions etc you have. You have some great thorough work and I appreciate it. :) 

(oof the phone version was difficult was to use. Sorry for the weird font and lack of linked sources. I’ll see if I can fix them later when I get on the laptop)



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CosmicSex said:

Sooo... should we make a new Harris vs Trump thread... or possibly rename this thread?

I think it would be better to create a new thread Tbh.

Too much old discussion in this about Biden vs Joe, better to start fresh?

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 22 July 2024

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Ryuu96 said:
CosmicSex said:

Sooo... should we make a new Harris vs Trump thread... or possibly rename this thread?

I think it would be better to create a new thread Tbh.

Too much old discussion in this about Biden vs Joe, better to start fresh?

Yes, new thread is needed.

At the tailend of this one it has gotten weird. BFR's incoherence can be put down to his drinking problem, but more perplexing is the revelation that Shtinamin_ will vote for Trump because God told him so. Let's bury this, so that we can forget about it.



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RolStoppable said:
Ryuu96 said:

I think it would be better to create a new thread Tbh.

Too much old discussion in this about Biden vs Joe, better to start fresh?

Yes, new thread is needed.

At the tailend of this one it has gotten weird. BFR's incoherence can be put down to his drinking problem, but more perplexing is the revelation that Shtinamin_ will vote for Trump because God told him so. Let's bury this, so that we can forget about it.

Best wait to make sure it's Harris.



In the new thread can we avoid accusing people of lying, being unintelligent and now having a drinking problem?



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So, who among is going to start a new thread?



Shtinamin_ said:

Thanks for the sources!

I’ll try to be quick and concise with my answers because I’ve been and still am very busy with applying to medical school, school, finding jobs, dating, finances, etc. Thank you for being patient with me.

I think the simplest reason why I will be voting for Trump is because I have received revelation that I need to vote for him.

Yep, Trump is a criminal as of right now. 

So let me get this straight... You recognize that Trump is a sexual predator and a criminal and tried to cover it all up for almost 2 decades... But will vote for him anyway?

I guess any reasonable discussion about Trump dies with that... Because clearly your morals are corrupt when it comes to Trump.

No individual on this Earth should ever hold office for any state, territory, town, city or country if they are a criminal... It's that simple... They are not fit to serve the public. - They cannot be trusted if they are a criminal.



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