Man debates pro-palestenian activist, who doesn't know how horrible and sexist the sharia law is for women.

For reference, he brought up many complaints that he has with sharia law and i'll list them below:

-A woman's testimony is worth half of man's

-Women are given an inheritance of half the amount of a man

-women have to wear those damn burkas in sharia law nations

-men can divorce women very quickly, but women are unable to divorce men.  This is incredibly bad, since in this sexist society, you'd imagine that there would be many more incidents of wife beatings, but they can't divorce to find a new life.  

Horrible

Just for reference, this is how Saudi Arabia, Iran, and even afghanistan work. They can say that they are wonderful people all they like, but the proof is in the pudding:

https://youtube.com/shorts/TzU_svhn9yM?si=GFpMZ4NpUMlxaFUY

Finally, it would be quite nice if some American/Canadian/European based feminist groups would protest against this, but they never will sadly.  

Women should start moving out of these 3 nations in protest, and go to say Israel, where women are treated equally. Israel isn't a horrible nation like those that have sharia law. They are fair in their legal dealings and respect minorities. They don't kill gay people for example.

https://www.fairplanet.org/story/3-countries-where-sharia-law-is-hardest-on-women/

What does Sharia law have to do with genocide?

How many Palestinian women have you seen in the pictures in this thread wearing a Burqa?

Who is trying (and failing) to silence a women's testimony here?




This is Iran as well btw



Yes, Iran needs a lot of progress on liberties for all. It won't come from exclusion, condemnation and stereotyping though.

Instead:

Canadian council of Muslim Women
https://www.ccmw.com/

Canadian Muslim's women's institute
https://cmwi.ca/

https://canadianwomen.org/blog/talking-about-identity-and-veiling-with-the-canadian-council-of-muslim-women/

https://www.heritage-matters.ca/articles/a-canadian-muslim-woman-reflects-on-30-years-in-canada

Now about Palestine

https://uscpr.org/activist-resource/grassroots-advocacy-toolkit/palestine-is-a-feminist-issue/

“Israel’s war against the continuance of Palestinian life targets women in every sphere. Certainly it targets women as potential or actual agents of the reproduction of life itself, as mothers and as caretakers, but it also targets women as reproducers of social and cultural life, as if the targeting of women—as so often in colonial regimes—were understood to be the royal road to the destruction of indigenous social and political life. Living under Israeli occupation or within the borders of its racial state has been devastating for all Palestinians, but is especially destructive for Palestinian women.”

Gendered State Violence

State violence is both racialized and gendered, an understanding that the feminist network INCITE! Women and Trans People of Color Against Violence has worked under for decades, and why Palestinian women scholar activists like Nada Elia push to end the idea that Zionism is a feminist issue.

Palestinian women face deliberate, systematic violence from the Israeli apartheid regime. They are denied their freedom, access to education, economic opportunities, freedom of movement, and their reproductive health. They are subjected to gender-based violence at the hands of Israeli soldiers and while they are held as political prisoners in Israeli prisons. They are disproportionately impacted by the displacement and poverty that are a direct result of Israel’s ongoing occupation.

A major aspect of the violence Palestinian women are subjected to is political violence. As defined by feminist theorist bell hooks, political violence is when a state or other powerful actors leverage gendered violence to achieve political goals and frighten women from joining political movements. Political violence is regularly deployed by Israel against Palestinian women in the form of arbitrary arrest and imprisonment (read the stories of Lina Khattab, Mariam Barghouti, Ahed and Nariman Tamimi, and Israa Jaabis), sexual violence enacted and threatened against Palestinian women prisoners (read the story of Rasmea Odeh), blackmail, or the endangering of Palestinian survivors and victims of domestic and sexual violence by Israeli officials.


Bububut Hamas.... (also created by Israel's oppression)




Change takes time as well as economic prosperity

https://helloprenup.com/prenuptial-agreements/prenuptial-agreements-are-a-feminist-issue/

Let’s not forget that it wasn’t until the 1970s that women in the United States gained the right to open bank accounts and obtain credit independently of their husbands or male relatives (you heard that right…the 1970s). Before this, women’s financial autonomy was severely limited. 

Economic rights for women are part of Sharia law since 1400 years ago, unlike Christian 'values'.
https://islamonline.net/en/position-of-women-in-islam-economic-aspect/

Still work to do at home

Women still don’t have full financial independence today

Despite the amazing advancement’s in women’s rights (thanks to all the women who came before us and fought for it), many modern day women still do not have full financial independence. Between the gender pay/wealth gap and women staying home with the kids more often than the man, they tend to become slightly if not fully financially dependent on their spouse. 

Prenups also exist in Islam

https://wenup.co.uk/prenup/understanding-the-role-of-a-prenup-in-islam

Women can divorce their husband under Sharia law, they can seek Khula or go to family court.

Veiling is not required under Sharia law
https://www.alislam.org/question/muslim-women-wear-veils/



Maybe do some research instead of spreading misinformation and stereotypes.
You got the inheritance law right though. (Husband gets 1/2 or 1/4 from Wife's estate, Wife gets 1/4 or 1/8 of Husband's estate)

Jerusalem Gay Pride: Six stabbed 'by ultra-Orthodox Jew'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33726634

https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-on-high-alert-ahead-of-jerusalem-pride-parade-threatened-by-violence/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1gkh8zg/while_filming_bruno_sacha_baron_cohen_cut_out_the/
While filming Bruno, Sacha Baron Cohen cut out the part where he was spat on by local Orthodox community while in Jerusalem. He was dragged, stomped, and punched while on the ground.

Same sex marriage is not allowed in Israel.
Israel doesn't recognize civil unions, marriage is restricted to religion.

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Issues/SexualOrientation/IESOGI/CSOsKZ/LGBTQ_Coalition_Israel_Appendix_-_the_LGBTQ_coalition_in_Israel.pdf

I doubt it's getting better atm with the religious far right having taken over the country...

https://evolve.reconstructingjudaism.org/israelwaronwomen/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/13/patriarchal-biased-israeli-women-fear-loss-rights-rabbinic-courts-legal-overhaul

Women in Israel also deal with discrimination based on religious laws.


Again do some research before spreading false stereotypes.

Veiling isn't required under sharia law but what is also true is that any men in authority will just make them do it or hurt the women.  And on this, i am an authority.  I know a lot about the middle east.       

Jewish values are much better than both Christian and muslim values.  I know a lot about all of this.

And yes, the sharia law countries deserve a lot of condemnation for everything that they do.  They kill gay people.  And until these groups are equal, i'll keep condemning them, i won't stop criticizing.  

Rain Dove goes to Gaza openly queer

Queer people on why they're marching for Palestine | Xtra Magazine

https://www.reddit.com/r/WorkersStrikeBack/comments/1br2cvd/queer_activists_visited_gaza_and_west_bank_to/

It’s safer to be trans in the Middle East then in Florida or Texas. It’s the right wing rhetoric that makes trans people a part of the queer community. It’s this right wing hate that puts people in jeopardy and makes them unsafe.

The grand majority of people in the Middle East are underrepresented, underprivileged and exploited. For Palestinians it’s all of that, plus murder and starvation and systematic sexual violence.

They want to live their own lives. And those that are politically aware are mostly talking about social justice, human rights, and anti-corruption and abuse.

The authoritarian Arab governments are kept in place because a democratic system would be against Israel’s Zionism and the oppression of Palestine. A United Arab nation would be too powerful to resist by Israel.

So they slander us, they sabotage our efforts to secularize and tell people that we are hateful by nature. By blood.

I hope videos like this can demonstrate that we Arabs are not bloodthirsty. We are not all bigots, and many of us believe in a world where all people can be as one.

But this can’t happen so long as Arabs have no political representation and the main point of contact for Arab views is authoritarian regimes, amplified bigots and fundamentalist groups, and the very people seeking our ethnic cleansing.

Unfortunately the video was removed by Reddit.




Anyway enough with the distractions.

This genocide has nothing to do with Gay or Women's rights. Bombing, starving, ethnic cleansing do not promote gay nor women's rights.

In fact Women are targeted the most by Israel's actions.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/07/gaza-un-expert-denounces-genocidal-violence-against-women-and-girls 

The UN Special Rapporteur on violence against women and girls, its causes and consequences, Reem Alsalem, today called for immediate global action to halt what she described as an unfolding “femi-genocide” in Gaza, saying the scale and nature of the crimes inflicted on Palestinian women and girls by Israeli forces are so extreme that existing concepts in legal and criminal frameworks can no longer adequately describe or capture them.

“What is happening to Palestinian women and girls is not collateral damage of war,” Alsalem said. “It is the intentional destruction of their lives and bodies, for being Palestinian and for being women.”

He won't do that and go to saidi Arabia or Iran, which are the two largest Muslim nations.  around btw, they'll impale him through the buttocks if does that. 

Deadly attack on central Gaza raises today’s death toll

A source at Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital reported that a Palestinian woman was killed and others were wounded in an Israeli attack that targeted a house in the south of Deir el-Balah in the central Gaza Strip.

Gaza’s hospitals report that today’s death toll now stands at 87 people killed, including 73 aid seekers.

More than 100 people killed in Israeli attacks across Gaza

Israeli forces have killed at least 104 people in attacks across the Gaza Strip since dawn, medical sources tell Al Jazeera.

Among the casualties are 78 aid seekers who were killed and more than 200 who were injured.

WFP: Aid convoy to northern Gaza fired on after crowd gathers

The World Food Programme (WFP) says one of its aid convoys came under fire in northern Gaza earlier today, after a large crowd of civilians gathered in hopes of receiving food assistance.

In a statement, WFP said the convoy of 25 trucks had entered through the Zikim crossing and was headed to areas facing “extreme food insecurity”.

After a short delay in gaining access to the north, the convoy was met by large crowds of desperate residents before being fired upon, resulting in multiple casualties, including deaths and injuries, according to reports.

WFP said it is working with local authorities to gather more information about the incident and reiterated that violence targeting civilians seeking humanitarian aid is “unacceptable”. The agency renewed its call to protect civilians and humanitarian workers delivering life-saving assistance.

UNRWA chief says food crisis in Gaza ‘man made’

UNRWA chief Philippe Lazzarini says they are getting daily messages from staff in Gaza about the lack of food available in the enclave amid an ongoing Israeli siege.

“How can one respond to such messages of despair? Shames me & doubles the sense of helplessness. All man – made, in total impunity. Food is available only a few kilometres away,” Lazzarini wrote on X.

He added that UNRWA had enough stock at the borders for the entire population for the next three months, but they had been blocked from bringing in aid “since March 2. ”

“Political will is needed. Inaction is complicity & makes us lose our humanity,” Lazzarini urged.

Two civil defence aid workers killed in separate Israeli attacks on Gaza

Gaza’s civil defence says its aid station in the so-called “humanitarian zone” of al-Mawasi in Khan Younis was directly hit by Israeli fire, resulting in the death of one aid worker and injury of five other personnel.

Hani Mohammed al-Dabbour was killed in the latest attack, marking a violation of international law, the organisation said in a statement, calling on the international community for action.

Ahmed Ramadan Mohammed Miqdad, another civil defence worker, was separately killed by Israeli gunfire in the northern Gaza Strip.

The Israeli military has now directly targeted civil defence points in “humanitarian” zones 11 times since the start of the war. Gaza aid workers with the civil defence have lost 134 colleagues, and 336 more have been wounded.

Another Palestinian dies of starvation: al-Ahli Hospital

A source at the hospital, located in the Zeitoun neighbourhood of Gaza City, reports that a person with special needs has succumbed to medical complications that arose from malnutrition.

Yesterday, at least two Palestinians, one a weeks-old infant, also died of malnutrition, as Israel’s blockade of Gaza continues.