SvennoJ said:
shavenferret said:
Man debates pro-palestenian activist, who doesn't know how horrible and sexist the sharia law is for women. For reference, he brought up many complaints that he has with sharia law and i'll list them below: -A woman's testimony is worth half of man's -Women are given an inheritance of half the amount of a man -women have to wear those damn burkas in sharia law nations -men can divorce women very quickly, but women are unable to divorce men. This is incredibly bad, since in this sexist society, you'd imagine that there would be many more incidents of wife beatings, but they can't divorce to find a new life.  Horrible Just for reference, this is how Saudi Arabia, Iran, and even afghanistan work. They can say that they are wonderful people all they like, but the proof is in the pudding:
https://youtube.com/shorts/TzU_svhn9yM?si=GFpMZ4NpUMlxaFUY Finally, it would be quite nice if some American/Canadian/European based feminist groups would protest against this, but they never will sadly.  |
What does Sharia law have to do with genocide?
How many Palestinian women have you seen in the pictures in this thread wearing a Burqa?
Who is trying (and failing) to silence a women's testimony here?
This is Iran as well btw
Yes, Iran needs a lot of progress on liberties for all. It won't come from exclusion, condemnation and stereotyping though.
Instead:
Canadian council of Muslim Women
https://www.ccmw.com/
Canadian Muslim's women's institute
https://cmwi.ca/
https://canadianwomen.org/blog/talking-about-identity-and-veiling-with-the-canadian-council-of-muslim-women/
https://www.heritage-matters.ca/articles/a-canadian-muslim-woman-reflects-on-30-years-in-canada
Now about Palestine
https://uscpr.org/activist-resource/grassroots-advocacy-toolkit/palestine-is-a-feminist-issue/
“Israel’s war against the continuance of Palestinian life targets women in every sphere. Certainly it targets women as potential or actual agents of the reproduction of life itself, as mothers and as caretakers, but it also targets women as reproducers of social and cultural life, as if the targeting of women—as so often in colonial regimes—were understood to be the royal road to the destruction of indigenous social and political life. Living under Israeli occupation or within the borders of its racial state has been devastating for all Palestinians, but is especially destructive for Palestinian women.â€
Gendered State Violence
State violence is both racialized and gendered, an understanding that the feminist network INCITE! Women and Trans People of Color Against Violence has worked under for decades, and why Palestinian women scholar activists like Nada Elia push to end the idea that Zionism is a feminist issue.
Palestinian women face deliberate, systematic violence from the Israeli apartheid regime. They are denied their freedom, access to education, economic opportunities, freedom of movement, and their reproductive health. They are subjected to gender-based violence at the hands of Israeli soldiers and while they are held as political prisoners in Israeli prisons. They are disproportionately impacted by the displacement and poverty that are a direct result of Israel’s ongoing occupation.
A major aspect of the violence Palestinian women are subjected to is political violence. As defined by feminist theorist bell hooks, political violence is when a state or other powerful actors leverage gendered violence to achieve political goals and frighten women from joining political movements. Political violence is regularly deployed by Israel against Palestinian women in the form of arbitrary arrest and imprisonment (read the stories of Lina Khattab, Mariam Barghouti, Ahed and Nariman Tamimi, and Israa Jaabis), sexual violence enacted and threatened against Palestinian women prisoners (read the story of Rasmea Odeh), blackmail, or the endangering of Palestinian survivors and victims of domestic and sexual violence by Israeli officials.
Bububut Hamas.... (also created by Israel's oppression)
Change takes time as well as economic prosperity
https://helloprenup.com/prenuptial-agreements/prenuptial-agreements-are-a-feminist-issue/ Let’s not forget that it wasn’t until the 1970s that women in the United States gained the right to open bank accounts and obtain credit independently of their husbands or male relatives (you heard that right…the 1970s). Before this, women’s financial autonomy was severely limited.Â
Economic rights for women are part of Sharia law since 1400 years ago, unlike Christian 'values'.
https://islamonline.net/en/position-of-women-in-islam-economic-aspect/
Still work to do at home Women still don’t have full financial independence today
Despite the amazing advancement’s in women’s rights (thanks to all the women who came before us and fought for it), many modern day women still do not have full financial independence. Between the gender pay/wealth gap and women staying home with the kids more often than the man, they tend to become slightly if not fully financially dependent on their spouse.Â
Prenups also exist in Islam
https://wenup.co.uk/prenup/understanding-the-role-of-a-prenup-in-islam
Women can divorce their husband under Sharia law, they can seek Khula or go to family court.
Veiling is not required under Sharia law
https://www.alislam.org/question/muslim-women-wear-veils/
Maybe do some research instead of spreading misinformation and stereotypes.
You got the inheritance law right though. (Husband gets 1/2 or 1/4 from Wife's estate, Wife gets 1/4 or 1/8 of Husband's estate)
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