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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS5 Ships 46.6 Million Units as of September 2023

DonFerrari on 09 November 2023
CosmicSex said:
Frank_kc said:

I dont believe they will hit the target. Sales of consoles and games will start to slow down due to the crazy increase of PS Plus prices.

You do realize that GP is still more expensive than PS Plus.  Are you saying that Xbox poor sales are due to their subscription prices?

I do think Xbox poor sales have plenty of reasons, one of them isn't X1 reveal.



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PotentHerbs on 09 November 2023

Fantastic results for Sony and PlayStation.

It looks like the PS5 has a good chance to dethrone the PS2's best FY even if they miss their 25M target. Hitting their FY23 target is riding on how well they do this holiday season. Anything less than 12M and I think they'll miss their forecast.



kazuyamishima on 09 November 2023
Zippy6 said:
kazuyamishima said:

We had a bet on PS5 + Series X/S not hitting 56m units by the end of 2023.

The PS5 alone will do that.

Yes definitely in shipments at least. In terms of sell-through combined Is probably going to be around 83m. Basically a massive 50% higher sales than that prediction.

Pretty silly bet if you ask me, but I've seen sillier than that.

Q3 is very important for Sony.



Iveyboi on 09 November 2023

Big news re: PS5 and Spiderman 2. Given the rough start due to COVID, will be great to see PS5 surpass PS4 on aligned launches!



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Robert_Downey_Jr. on 10 November 2023

First party is down sure though I'm curious how third party exclusives/timed stuff is doing. They SHOULD bundle FF16 this holiday to strengthen their relationship with Square by leveraging their place as console manufacturer. Basically guaranteeing them millions of sales this holiday and giving people an awesome game and free advertising for Square.



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PotentHerbs on 10 November 2023
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

First party is down sure though I'm curious how third party exclusives/timed stuff is doing. They SHOULD bundle FF16 this holiday to strengthen their relationship with Square by leveraging their place as console manufacturer. Basically guaranteeing them millions of sales this holiday and giving people an awesome game and free advertising for Square.

At this point, if Sony is looking to strengthen their partnership with Square, they need to welcome them to the family. 



DonFerrari on 10 November 2023
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

First party is down sure though I'm curious how third party exclusives/timed stuff is doing. They SHOULD bundle FF16 this holiday to strengthen their relationship with Square by leveraging their place as console manufacturer. Basically guaranteeing them millions of sales this holiday and giving people an awesome game and free advertising for Square.

Nothing against a bundle with FF16 since it will even be entering discounted bin time, but those named bundles are more for launch. Maybe they may make a collection bundle with FF7R, Rebirth and 16 =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Norion on 11 November 2023

Another strong PS5 quarter. Next quarter for the PS4 has the Pro launch in it so it will be tough to beat that though them getting a 10m+ quarter should be pretty doable with all the momentum.



DonFerrari on 11 November 2023
Norion said:

Another strong PS5 quarter. Next quarter for the PS4 has the Pro launch in it so it will be tough to beat that though them getting a 10m+ quarter should be pretty doable with all the momentum.

PS5 have pseudo slim so a nice fight



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Frank_kc on 12 November 2023
CosmicSex said:
Frank_kc said:

I dont believe they will hit the target. Sales of consoles and games will start to slow down due to the crazy increase of PS Plus prices.

You do realize that GP is still more expensive than PS Plus.  Are you saying that Xbox poor sales are due to their subscription prices?

I don’t believe so, Xbox poor sales are more related to lack of exclusives and the quality of the limited exclusives offered. Let me give you an example, I buy COD every year to play online. I am skipping PS Plus renewal, therefore, i am skipping COD purchase this year.

As for console, the entry cost did go up. If u are an online player, you now have to pay the console price + the new PS Plus price which can get you up to an entry cost of 620$+.

Thats why I believe that they will miss their target. The impact of PS Plus will take time as enrolled people will stop renewal any where between Sept 2023 and Aug 2024, based on when their sub expires.