Oh thank god the GTAIV: VC and GTAIV: SA thing was a joke. I was ready to debate it too. Sorry I guess I can't tell when a wink is meant to be a joke or being serious and cheeky.

On the compression thing, that's a possible reason for stating what he said, but don't you think that maybe Lionhead isn't being completely honest. I mean whenever a developer talks about space you say that they are being dishonest in one way or another, but couldn't Lionhead just be dishonest?

I hate websites that take quotes out of context and then leave out anything that goes against the claims they're trying to make. It's very poor and dishonest journalism that ps3.kombo.com has on display in that article.

starcraft said: By the sound of the DLC rumours, GTAIV: VC and GTAIV: SA will be exclusive and downloadable on the Xbox 360, whilst I expect GTAV for the Xbox3 and PS4.

 so it come in 10 years rigth?

They could always use 2 disc's, it would not cost much.

GTA V is still about two or three years away. GTA IV is here in 5 days enjoy that game first.

It is possible that Lionhead exaggerated, but unlikely.  Someone started a thread here on VGC to a demo file you could download that had a five minute video.  The download size was 55kb.........

It's difficult not to be mislead by developers that claim that 22GB was neccessary for Motorstorm or that one Killzone 2 level "couldn't possibly" have been less than 2GB.

Where they to make the same sentence in an honest context, it would go more like "you couldn't possibly make a KZ2 level with less than 2GB, unless of course you compressed the data, which we couldn't do because Sony's PR department said not to." 

MANUELF said: starcraft said: By the sound of the DLC rumours, GTAIV: VC and GTAIV: SA will be exclusive and downloadable on the Xbox 360, whilst I expect GTAV for the Xbox3 and PS4. so it come in 10 years rigth?

BAHAHA.

Yeah, right.  Seriously everybody.  Sony will have their next console out in four years just like Microsoft and Nintendo.  And the PS3 won't sell for nearly as long as the PS2, because it won't even come close to being the market's dominant console. 

Naughty Dog claimed that Uncharted used 22GB and everything was compressed.

 Uncharted was a single player game and only took 8 hours to complete. n expert gamer could pass it in less than 6 hours. Uncharted 22GB incredible.

 You're right, the words "couldn't possibly" are poorly used, perhaps a better sentence would be "couldn't possibly with the quality we wanted".  But isn't the phrase "without any noticable quality loss" kind of misleading in itself.  They didn't notice the quality difference, or perhaps they see and choose to ignore it.  I just fail to see how Lionhead is such a trustworthy group, while all these other groups are obviously using their words with ulterior motives.