1. While it is true we have no idea how the Switch 2's Tegra will be like, a low TDP mobile 3050 level of performance (like the one in the video) is in line with the upper-end rumors, especially if they switched from Ampere to Lovelace as some of the more recent rumors allude to. Furthermore, it doesn't invalidate the point I was making that DLSS is a significant improvement even for the lowest-end Ampere chips. The 25W mobile 2050 (which is technically GA107, despite the 20 title) also benefits significantly from DLSS despite being a significant cut down relative to the 3050 mobile. It's often the difference between a game being unplayable or being lockable to 30fps (or 60fps.)  

2. Right, the point is moot of whether or not it can technically support XeSS if no games do. Nvidia has the incentive (with Nintendo) to push DLSS hard on the Switch 2 in a way Intel doesn't have with respect to XeSS and current gen consoles. 

3. We still don't know how well FSR 3 will compare to DLSS. Like DLSS 3.0, it seems mostly to be a Optical Frame Generation release (bleh), but I am sure they are indeed improving their TAAU solution too. The concern I have with AMD's ability to keep up is that as these Deep Learning Models get better (especially when the modeling process itself is automated by AI), it's going to be very hard for humans to keep up with the heuristic methods they've done in the past. AMD will either have to go the machine-learning route themselves, or find some new innovation beyond TAAU. 

It's unfortunate because it gives us less competition in the GPU-space, but the work Nvidia is putting into deep-learning inference in 3d modeling (and gaming) is very wide and deep. Every other month they release a new paper about some method of inference. These are all potential future DLSS implementations.

4. Between 12W - 30W they are doing well indeed. Sub-12W, ARM is still king. 

5. Yeah, true, just having a capable VRR display is better. 

6. The dev kits ostensibly are coming with 16GB. Having 8 GB dedicated to the graphics fits the performance-spec of the device. Anything more probably wouldn't make sense anyway. 

Instead of throwing a temper tantrum how about being an adult and reformulated your position?

If your position is now that the Switch 2 will have enough power to get current gen ports, they will look and play fine via reasonable downgrades....  news flash, every one here will agree.  

This whole argument started when you said the switch 2 would have visual fidelity close to the ps5...  which isn't true and sadly you know it.  It is just a question of what level of maturity you want to bring to the table.

And a high end PC will slaughter a ps5.  

For the record Nintendo is my favorite developer.  I own and play more switch games than any other platform.  And the switch 2 is automatic day 1 purchase.  So the anti Nintendo sentiment is beyond flawed.  

It is little things you can't admit.  You said the switch 2 would run FFVII Remake like the ps5.  The ps4 doesn't run it like the ps5.  The Deck doesn't run it like the ps4....  so no the switch 2 isn't running it like the ps5.  Fact. 

if your point is it would still look and run fine, I agree.  But pretending there isn't clear fidelity difference is simply nonsense.

And if you think the differences don't matter, that is fair because you are entitled to your opinion.  The issue is you want everyone to agree with your opinion.   Not all of us do.

So STOP.

pemalite.
Please do not reply to my pre-edited comment.
It will be too hard to know how to answer.

Yes, I will comment later, but it will take time.

And if you were going to quote me, you should have put all my documents.
You have some passages you are quoting and some you are not, which makes my point moot.

It seems that simple mistakes were indeed made.
For that I apologize.

Then again, replying to everything you wrote doesn't seem to make sense either.

Anyway, I will inspect all my mistakes.
Let's do so for those parts of your argument that we can agree on in some form of summary.

And to be honest I distrust you, but I can also explain that it is not unreasonable.

Bolded:  The answer is never

DLSS SR has improved a lot too over the last year. FHD DLSS perf mode (540p to 1080p) is doable and will look fine on a small display.

Here's my prediction assuming the rumours are true:

a) Nintendo will prioritize quietness, portability and low power over performance. I highly doubt they will put a Steam Deck or Asus Ally in your hands. I suspect the Switch 2 won't be too much bigger than the current switch which comes with it's own set of limitations. For example, it puts a limitation on how much battery you can pack in, how much cooling you can pack in, how many watts the SoC can have. The Steam Decks SoC just by itself for example uses 15 watts while the Switch including the SoC, the screen and such uses around 15 watts.

b) Switch 2s Raster performance without DLSS imo will be around base PS4 but because of architectural advancements, much faster CPU, SSD, etc, there will be many games where the visual quality will exceed what ps4 is capable of and situations where ps4/pro simply won't be able to run the game. It's kind of like how a Steam Deck can't match up against PS4 in terms of native resolution in a game like God of War but Steam Deck can do things like run Ghost Runner with Ray Tracing enabled that the PS4 is not able to. Another example is any game or engine that requires an SSD, a PS4 simply won't be able to run it not due to a limitation on the gpu but due to being forced to use a hard drive.

c) DLSS is a game changer but it won't perform miracles. At best, you will have the visual quality of a Series S but at a significantly lower Render resolution. Can DLSS upscale Switch 2 from a lower render resolution say 720p and turn out better results than a Series S upscaling from 1080p using FSR 2? We will have to see but there has been countless tests that proved that upscaling DLSS from a lower resolution certainly was able to match or exceed FSR 2 from a higher resolution in terms of image quality. Because of the nature of DLSS which is Ai upscaling trained on super computers vs FSR 2 being a more traditional upscaler and RDNA 2 lacking in Ai acceleration department, it's very unlikely that FSR will catch up to DLSS without requiring RDNA 3 exclusive hardware. With that being said, I doubt the visual quality will match up against Series S in most cases even if the upscaling ends up being superior.

lol, that looks terrific image quality wise. For a 7-inch ish display? That's way more than fine. That looks nothing at all like native 540p undocked games like what we see on the current Switch which clearly don't look like they're 1080p or even close. That even honestly looks fine on a full 4K display which is what I'm watching it on in full screen. Is it as good as native 1080p ... probably not, but that is also not like an abomination of 1080p either, for most people that will pass quite easily. 

In fact I would bet a lot of the naysayers if they were shown this video out of context and just told it was Cyberpunk running at 1080p, they wouldn't even really question it. 

There's no way this doesn't make a huge difference for a platform like the Switch 2, no way. Go look at what a 540p looks like image quality wise on the current Switch and then come tell me it looks like a 1080p image comparable to the above. 

Well said.  I think this is spot on and very likely.  For a hybrid console around ps4 quality is going to be amazing, especially compared to where the switch currently sits.  

The only thing I would add is DLSS is a tool, not automatic.  So Nintendo is likely to do a great job with it.  But there will be a few lazy third party ports, meaning the max impact of DLSS will be a mixed bag.  

Either way I'm ready for an upgrade.  I love the switch and thought tears was the best game I've ever played.  But the age is showing.  Coming off RE Remake 4 in performance mode to my 2nd play of Sparks of Hope...  I'm ready.

Thanks. One thing that's simple to understand is that a Switch 2 might draw around 15-20 watts including the screen, speakers, wifi, all that jazz. While a Series S draws around 80 watts and it doesn't have a screen, speakers and such. So there is a big power difference in wattage alone that the Series S has access to.

And yea, we will have to see how Nintendo/Nvidia does their DLSS partnership. If DLSS is implemented, I am sure Nvidia will be handling the DLSS Ai Training while Nintendo will simply include it as part of their Api for developers and leave it up to them if they want to enable it in their game or not. I doubt Nintendo or developers will do any Ai training for DLSS themselves. Personally I am just excited to see what Nintendo games look like with the power of PS4 and DLSS.