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firebush03 said:
Xxain said:

This has nothing to do with the system being bad. It has to do with you.

You have to understand a forum is a web of opinions and some will agree with those opinions and some won't. That is the very core of the internet experience. Stop being scared of people not agreeing with you.

I know this is a concept which some ppl have a hard time grasping…but when a problem emerges, it’s almost never an entirely one-sided issue. It is possible that both the voting system needs some fixing just as I need some fixing. (In fact, seeing as 4ppl agreed with my comment, there does exist tangible evidence pointing toward the former statement holding true.)

What have I done to fix myself in this situation? Many things, and I actly feel a lot better now. Simply commenting less as well choosing Twitter/X (where I never comment) over VGC has pretty much resolved all my problems. And just b/c the effects of this issue are no longer present for me doesn’t mean the issue is gone.

What have the ppl in-charge done to fix this situation? Again, it seems four others agreed with my comment…so it’s not just me.

(p.s. My og comment wasn’t complaining abt ppl disagreeing, it was specifically ppl downvoting. There’s a difference between somebody disagreeing and somebody giving a hostile cue.)

What do you mean? To downvote IS to disagree. To disagree will lead to downvote for those who actually bother with that stuff. They are the same things in this regard. You are overly concerned about how other users will view your comments. Don't be.



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Xxain said:
firebush03 said:

I know this is a concept which some ppl have a hard time grasping…but when a problem emerges, it’s almost never an entirely one-sided issue. It is possible that both the voting system needs some fixing just as I need some fixing. (In fact, seeing as 4ppl agreed with my comment, there does exist tangible evidence pointing toward the former statement holding true.)

What have I done to fix myself in this situation? Many things, and I actly feel a lot better now. Simply commenting less as well choosing Twitter/X (where I never comment) over VGC has pretty much resolved all my problems. And just b/c the effects of this issue are no longer present for me doesn’t mean the issue is gone.

What have the ppl in-charge done to fix this situation? Again, it seems four others agreed with my comment…so it’s not just me.

(p.s. My og comment wasn’t complaining abt ppl disagreeing, it was specifically ppl downvoting. There’s a difference between somebody disagreeing and somebody giving a hostile cue.)

What do you mean? To downvote IS to disagree. To disagree will lead to downvote for those who actually bother with that stuff. They are the same things in this regard. You are overly concerned about how other users will view your comments. Don't be.

okay. just respond to the last sentence with the same point you started with. Whatever. I have no interest in chatting with you.



If you don't like seeing downvotes - turn them off.
Settings -> "Article Likes Preference".

Change it to good to turn off "negative" votes. Or none to turn off all votes.



You are bound to love Earthbound.

Bandorr said:

If you don't like seeing downvotes - turn them off.
Settings -> "Article Likes Preference".

Change it to good to turn off "negative" votes. Or none to turn off all votes.

Where have you been all this time lol. Thank you so much. :)



Xxain said:
firebush03 said:

I know this is a concept which some ppl have a hard time grasping…but when a problem emerges, it’s almost never an entirely one-sided issue. It is possible that both the voting system needs some fixing just as I need some fixing. (In fact, seeing as 4ppl agreed with my comment, there does exist tangible evidence pointing toward the former statement holding true.)

What have I done to fix myself in this situation? Many things, and I actly feel a lot better now. Simply commenting less as well choosing Twitter/X (where I never comment) over VGC has pretty much resolved all my problems. And just b/c the effects of this issue are no longer present for me doesn’t mean the issue is gone.

What have the ppl in-charge done to fix this situation? Again, it seems four others agreed with my comment…so it’s not just me.

(p.s. My og comment wasn’t complaining abt ppl disagreeing, it was specifically ppl downvoting. There’s a difference between somebody disagreeing and somebody giving a hostile cue.)

What do you mean? To downvote IS to disagree. To disagree will lead to downvote for those who actually bother with that stuff. They are the same things in this regard. You are overly concerned about how other users will view your comments. Don't be.

No, that's just one way to see it, and the way I see it is that people probably use downvoting in different ways. Some probably use it as you describe, some probably use it like I do, which is to indicate a bad comment, not just one I happen to disagree with, and some probably have different ways to decide what to downvote. In fact, you might even downvote a comment you agree with, if you find it bad enough, so even then, downvoting doesn't necessarily mean disagreement.



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Bandorr said:

If you don't like seeing downvotes - turn them off.
Settings -> "Article Likes Preference".

Change it to good to turn off "negative" votes. Or none to turn off all votes.

Hello again. It’s not working on my end? I got the preference set to “None.” last night (and saved changes), but it has yet to take effect from what I can tell…



firebush03 said:
Bandorr said:

If you don't like seeing downvotes - turn them off.
Settings -> "Article Likes Preference".

Change it to good to turn off "negative" votes. Or none to turn off all votes.

Hello again. It’s not working on my end? I got the preference set to “None.” last night (and saved changes), but it has yet to take effect from what I can tell…

Tested that can I can confirm the feature isn't working. I'll look into that.



You are bound to love Earthbound.

firebush03 said:
Bandorr said:

If you don't like seeing downvotes - turn them off.
Settings -> "Article Likes Preference".

Change it to good to turn off "negative" votes. Or none to turn off all votes.

Hello again. It’s not working on my end? I got the preference set to “None.” last night (and saved changes), but it has yet to take effect from what I can tell…

It should be working now. I'll give example pictures.

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Last edited by Bandorr - on 27 September 2024

You are bound to love Earthbound.

I think the voting system is fine, and should remain. In fact, I kind of like coming back to see what kind of vote activity my comment has received.

I don't really feel like it is widely abused or significantly weaponized. There are some users that consistently post what I would consider bad comments, and those people are subject to consistent down voting, as they (arguably) should be. I think that's really a benefit of voting.

I would not oppose separating up votes and down votes.  In fact, I think I like that idea. As I mentioned, I like to see what kind of vote activity my comments receive. But, if I come back to a plus one or a minus one or something, I don't know if that's because it's gotten a lot of votes both ways, or because not very many people have cared enough to vote.  Separating ups and downs would make the voting system more valuable to me, I think.

I haven't been paying as much attention lately. But, in years past, I often felt like this site was a bit too tight with the moderation. Trolling and shit talking are part of the deal in forums and social media. I don't think we should be trying to stop behavior that is normal.

There are some limits to how much should be tolerated, of course. And I want to make clear that I don't think the site is too bad with over moderating. It's just that I'd like to see it a bit looser (keep in mind that my opinion is based on observations over the past few years, and not so much the last several months).

I know there's some balance that has to be found. Banning people or otherwise discouraging them from posting is bad. But, allowing them to talk a bunch of shit that discourages other people from posting is also bad. It's a tough job for the mod team. I appreciate those that take on the task.



Regarding site improvements....

What is the status of the relationship between our team (mods, admins, developer, etc) and the owner of this site? I have the impression that ownership is essentially MIA. If that's the case, I wouldn't advise anyone to put real time and effort into improving this place unless they get enjoyment out of doing the work. Ownership could nuke the whole thing (either intentionally or due to inaction when needed) at any time.

In fact, every time this site goes down I find myself wondering if it will be gone forever. I assume that one of these times, it will be.