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Cobretti2 said:
Norion said:

You gotta keep in mind that after this film the highest grossing video game films have only ever reached 400m. A brand as massive as Mario combined with Illumination's expertise at making animated films loads of people wanna watch made this happen. A high quality live action Zelda film could do well but a billion would be unlikely regardless of how good it is since the average person is much more likely to know who characters like Mario and Bowser are than Link and Ganon.

Yer but with that logic, why would anyone create a new live-action movie with new characters? Sometimes you have to risk it to get the biscuit as they say lol. Therefore, just because a wider audience may not know it now, doesn't mean that a well executed movie can't attract them to it. Otherwise movies would have been long dead already. It also depends what Nintendo's aim would be. Would it be a one off movie or would they try to make a series out of it? The first movie, they may be happy to break even if they spend big money on marketing for it for example, as this will drive people to want to watch the next one (assuming first one was good).

We also all know that Nintendo don't always play it safe as we seen with their consoles, so I can see them going all in and taking a gamble to see if it pays off.

Yea exactly. And sure Zelda isn't as high profile with the general public as Mario, but outside of Mario it is one of the most recognizable IPs in video games. Norion, it's not like people are gonna be like "what is this zelda thing??".

You combine the highly recognizable IP of Zelda with the highly popular genre of blockbuster fantasy movies and you've got a potentially enormous smash hit in live-action Zelda movies that could go through several movies especially if they really build the characters in the first movie so that people think of the actors as Zelda, Link, etc like the way the public thinks of the actors in superhero movies as those characters.

Suddenly people are coming out of nowhere acting like live action movies can't make money lol. I don't think there is any chance that a Zelda animated movie would do anywhere near as well as a Zelda live-action. I'd give Zelda live-action at minimum few hundred million dollar advantage at the box office compared to an animated movie. I don't see Zelda animated appealing to anywhere near the number of people that Mario animated appeals to, but I could see Zelda live-action being on par with Mario animated movie's appeal. I think, assuming high quality for both concepts, Zelda animated would probably be a <$500 million thing, while live-action could very well be over a billion and possibly as big as wherever the Mario movie ends up. Cuz with live-action you're gonna still have all the kids into it, but you're also gonna have all the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s year olds who love fantasy movies loving it.



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DroidKnight said:

YAY!! ^^



super_etecoon said:

Now is not the time to start pumping out movies to exploit this success.

Yes but you're underestimating the level of tunnel vision the execs in Hollywood have, with the comic book hero diamond mine yielding less returns now every game studios phone lines are likely blowing up now. We're about to be flooded with them over the next decade now. 



Wyrdness said:
super_etecoon said:

Now is not the time to start pumping out movies to exploit this success.

Yes but you're underestimating the level of tunnel vision the execs in Hollywood have, with the comic book hero diamond mine yielding less returns now every game studios phone lines are likely blowing up now. We're about to be flooded with them over the next decade now. 

And like it or not, even with good video game movies like The Super Mario Bros. Movie, Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Street Fighter II The Animated Movie, Detective Pikachu and the Animal Crossing movie, there will still be duds made by people who don't give a shit about the source material.



DroidKnight said:

It's at 876mil as of Sunday, so even higher. 871mil was a lowball estimate yesterday.

It'll have no issue getting into the top 50 highest grossing movies. In the US it's already in the top 30.



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Kakadu18 said:
DroidKnight said:

It's at 876mil as of Sunday, so even higher. 871mil was a lowball estimate yesterday.

It'll have no issue getting into the top 50 highest grossing movies. In the US it's already in the top 30.

I've noticed sometimes it is off a bit.  I was mainly looking above it to see other big movies that are about to be passed.  I agree, it will break into the top 50 easily.  



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mZuzek said:
S.Peelman said:

Wouldn’t that just be ‘Alien’ (in caves instead of on a spaceship) though.

I mean, if there's one thing Metroid should be like, it's Alien. Besides, Alien hasn't had a really good movie in almost 40 years, the market's not exactly saturated by it.

Still, there's a lot about Metroid that makes it unique. Compared to Alien, it'd be less focused on horror and more on the mystery (so more scenes like the one where the Nostromo crew enters the alien spaceship, and less scenes like the ones involving the alien itself), and it'd have less dialogue. There should definitely be a horror element attached to the Metroids themselves, but they shouldn't really be a major presence before the ending of the movie. There's a lot that can be done with the mythos of the series, the Chozo and all, and especially with the Space Pirates who could be far more fleshed out than they were in the games.

Fair enough, can't argue there.



S.Peelman said:
mZuzek said:

I mean, if there's one thing Metroid should be like, it's Alien. Besides, Alien hasn't had a really good movie in almost 40 years, the market's not exactly saturated by it.

Still, there's a lot about Metroid that makes it unique. Compared to Alien, it'd be less focused on horror and more on the mystery (so more scenes like the one where the Nostromo crew enters the alien spaceship, and less scenes like the ones involving the alien itself), and it'd have less dialogue. There should definitely be a horror element attached to the Metroids themselves, but they shouldn't really be a major presence before the ending of the movie. There's a lot that can be done with the mythos of the series, the Chozo and all, and especially with the Space Pirates who could be far more fleshed out than they were in the games.

Fair enough, can't argue there.

Yeah. Were all the minor Space Pirates the same race as the ones introduced in Super Metroid? Was Ridley one of said Space Pirates or was he always the nightmarish Xenomorph pterodactyl thing who's made Samus Aran's life difficult?



Cobretti2 said:
Norion said:

You gotta keep in mind that after this film the highest grossing video game films have only ever reached 400m. A brand as massive as Mario combined with Illumination's expertise at making animated films loads of people wanna watch made this happen. A high quality live action Zelda film could do well but a billion would be unlikely regardless of how good it is since the average person is much more likely to know who characters like Mario and Bowser are than Link and Ganon.

Yer but with that logic, why would anyone create a new live-action movie with new characters? Sometimes you have to risk it to get the biscuit as they say lol. Therefore, just because a wider audience may not know it now, doesn't mean that a well executed movie can't attract them to it. Otherwise movies would have been long dead already. It also depends what Nintendo's aim would be. Would it be a one off movie or would they try to make a series out of it? The first movie, they may be happy to break even if they spend big money on marketing for it for example, as this will drive people to want to watch the next one (assuming first one was good).

We also all know that Nintendo don't always play it safe as we seen with their consoles, so I can see them going all in and taking a gamble to see if it pays off.

Sure it can be worth it to take a gamble. I was just saying that a Zelda film would have a lot lower box office potential than a Mario one currently.

Slownenberg said:
Cobretti2 said:

Yer but with that logic, why would anyone create a new live-action movie with new characters? Sometimes you have to risk it to get the biscuit as they say lol. Therefore, just because a wider audience may not know it now, doesn't mean that a well executed movie can't attract them to it. Otherwise movies would have been long dead already. It also depends what Nintendo's aim would be. Would it be a one off movie or would they try to make a series out of it? The first movie, they may be happy to break even if they spend big money on marketing for it for example, as this will drive people to want to watch the next one (assuming first one was good).

We also all know that Nintendo don't always play it safe as we seen with their consoles, so I can see them going all in and taking a gamble to see if it pays off.

Yea exactly. And sure Zelda isn't as high profile with the general public as Mario, but outside of Mario it is one of the most recognizable IPs in video games. Norion, it's not like people are gonna be like "what is this zelda thing??".

You combine the highly recognizable IP of Zelda with the highly popular genre of blockbuster fantasy movies and you've got a potentially enormous smash hit in live-action Zelda movies that could go through several movies especially if they really build the characters in the first movie so that people think of the actors as Zelda, Link, etc like the way the public thinks of the actors in superhero movies as those characters.

Suddenly people are coming out of nowhere acting like live action movies can't make money lol. I don't think there is any chance that a Zelda animated movie would do anywhere near as well as a Zelda live-action. I'd give Zelda live-action at minimum few hundred million dollar advantage at the box office compared to an animated movie. I don't see Zelda animated appealing to anywhere near the number of people that Mario animated appeals to, but I could see Zelda live-action being on par with Mario animated movie's appeal. I think, assuming high quality for both concepts, Zelda animated would probably be a <$500 million thing, while live-action could very well be over a billion and possibly as big as wherever the Mario movie ends up. Cuz with live-action you're gonna still have all the kids into it, but you're also gonna have all the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s year olds who love fantasy movies loving it.

A lot of people would actually be like that cause I doubt that many people above the age of 50 know what Zelda is but loads will know about Mario for example. Zelda is not as popular and well known as you're suggesting it is, the gap between it and Mario is huge so a Zelda film would not get the audience numbers to reach a billion let alone equal the Mario film. I think it'd likely become the 2nd highest grossing video game ever made but a billion is a massive leap from there.



Norion said:
Cobretti2 said:

Yer but with that logic, why would anyone create a new live-action movie with new characters? Sometimes you have to risk it to get the biscuit as they say lol. Therefore, just because a wider audience may not know it now, doesn't mean that a well executed movie can't attract them to it. Otherwise movies would have been long dead already. It also depends what Nintendo's aim would be. Would it be a one off movie or would they try to make a series out of it? The first movie, they may be happy to break even if they spend big money on marketing for it for example, as this will drive people to want to watch the next one (assuming first one was good).

We also all know that Nintendo don't always play it safe as we seen with their consoles, so I can see them going all in and taking a gamble to see if it pays off.

Sure it can be worth it to take a gamble. I was just saying that a Zelda film would have a lot lower box office potential than a Mario one currently.

Slownenberg said:

Yea exactly. And sure Zelda isn't as high profile with the general public as Mario, but outside of Mario it is one of the most recognizable IPs in video games. Norion, it's not like people are gonna be like "what is this zelda thing??".

You combine the highly recognizable IP of Zelda with the highly popular genre of blockbuster fantasy movies and you've got a potentially enormous smash hit in live-action Zelda movies that could go through several movies especially if they really build the characters in the first movie so that people think of the actors as Zelda, Link, etc like the way the public thinks of the actors in superhero movies as those characters.

Suddenly people are coming out of nowhere acting like live action movies can't make money lol. I don't think there is any chance that a Zelda animated movie would do anywhere near as well as a Zelda live-action. I'd give Zelda live-action at minimum few hundred million dollar advantage at the box office compared to an animated movie. I don't see Zelda animated appealing to anywhere near the number of people that Mario animated appeals to, but I could see Zelda live-action being on par with Mario animated movie's appeal. I think, assuming high quality for both concepts, Zelda animated would probably be a <$500 million thing, while live-action could very well be over a billion and possibly as big as wherever the Mario movie ends up. Cuz with live-action you're gonna still have all the kids into it, but you're also gonna have all the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s year olds who love fantasy movies loving it.

A lot of people would actually be like that cause I doubt that many people above the age of 50 know what Zelda is but loads will know about Mario for example. Zelda is not as popular and well known as you're suggesting it is, the gap between it and Mario is huge so a Zelda film would not get the audience numbers to reach a billion let alone equal the Mario film. I think it'd likely become the 2nd highest grossing video game ever made but a billion is a massive leap from there.

So Nintendo should do things to raise popularity of The Legend of Zelda before doing the movie?