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Kyuu said:

Neverness to Everness looks very impressive. Haven't played any gacha since FGO in 2019~ but I'll probably try this one. System requirements are quite high for a f2p/mobile game.

I does look great. I can't go for a third gacha game tho, so I'll have to pass.

Damn Mihoyo needs to move Genshin to its ending already, been 5 years, but the lead dev is talking about turning it into a 10 or 20 years long IP... hopefully with other games and not just milking this forever, lol.



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Kyuu said:

Neverness to Everness looks very impressive. Haven't played any gacha since FGO in 2019~ but I'll probably try this one. System requirements are quite high for a f2p/mobile game.

I've tried a couple gachas and hated how deliberately bland and repetitive they were to play - not to mention how they're deliberately designed to keep you in the menus (and hopefully spending money in their shop) more than actually playing the damn thing. The one gacha I have my eye on right now is Ananta, but it would have to buck that trend to sell me. 



BraLoD said:
Kyuu said:

Neverness to Everness looks very impressive. Haven't played any gacha since FGO in 2019~ but I'll probably try this one. System requirements are quite high for a f2p/mobile game.

I does look great. I can't go for a third gacha game tho, so I'll have to pass.

Damn Mihoyo needs to move Genshin to its ending already, been 5 years, but the lead dev is talking about turning it into a 10 or 20 years long IP... hopefully with other games and not just milking this forever, lol.

TallSilhouette said:
Kyuu said:

I've tried a couple gachas and hated how deliberately bland and repetitive they were to play - not to mention how they're deliberately designed to keep you in the menus (and hopefully spending money in their shop) more than actually playing the damn thing. The one gacha I have my eye on right now is Ananta, but it would have to buck that trend to sell me. 

Genshin might last as long as FFXIV lol.

I have no experience with gachas outside the two or so months I had with FGO. It did get boring/repetitive quickly but the plot and characters kept me engaged for a few weeks. I really enjoyed some of Nasu's works.

These Chinese gachas are very impressive from my perspective as a spectator. I can't say much about the gameplay loop, but Anime-styled games with this level of visuals/animations/attention to detail are unheard of. And they keep impressing me more with new games/updates, about time I try one of them.

This NTE video kind of blew me away:

https://youtu.be/bUKZQ59gdII

Many people call Ananta "vaporware" but I think it's real and will be the more polished product than NTE (less bugs، better animations, physics, and potentially more satisfying combat) although NTE seems more ambitious as far as level design and the numbers of things you can do. Just my early impressions.



Kyuu said:
BraLoD said:

I does look great. I can't go for a third gacha game tho, so I'll have to pass.

Damn Mihoyo needs to move Genshin to its ending already, been 5 years, but the lead dev is talking about turning it into a 10 or 20 years long IP... hopefully with other games and not just milking this forever, lol.

TallSilhouette said:

I've tried a couple gachas and hated how deliberately bland and repetitive they were to play - not to mention how they're deliberately designed to keep you in the menus (and hopefully spending money in their shop) more than actually playing the damn thing. The one gacha I have my eye on right now is Ananta, but it would have to buck that trend to sell me. 

Genshin might last as long as FFXIV lol.

I have no experience with gachas outside the two or so months I had with FGO. It did get boring/repetitive quickly but the plot and characters kept me engaged for a few weeks. I really enjoyed some of Nasu's works.

These Chinese gachas are very impressive from my perspective as a spectator. I can't say much about the gameplay loop, but Anime-styled games with this level of visuals/animations/attention to detail are unheard of. And they keep impressing me more with new games/updates, about time I try one of them.

This NTE video kind of blew me away:

https://youtu.be/bUKZQ59gdII

Many people call Ananta "vaporware" but I think it's real and will be the more polished product than NTE (less bugs، better animations, physics, and potentially more satisfying combat) although NTE seems more ambitious as far as level design and the numbers of things you can do. Just my early impressions.

Yes the games will get repetitive, you do cool story and characters quests, and in Genshin explore cool new places, but most of the time you do repetitive stuff in between patches, because if you don't you'll have to pay to get those cool characters.

Something that is both a good and bad point, is that nowdays Genshin has so much content that you can actually drop other games altogether for like a year and still not get to the repetitive part of gacha model structure... it's intimidating and massively time consuming but this part of the game is nonstop good stuff for like 500 hours, lol.

Zenless Zone Zero is much newer and is not open world so there is no cool exploring to do like all the other famous gachas, but it has a lot more character interaction than those games because of it as well, it feels more like gacha action Persona than the other games, the game over 1 year old and I've not missed a single day without playing it, and I've never felt like dropping it, unlike Genshin that I dropped twice and are feeling like dropping it again nowdays.

My honest advice is to not play gachas tho, even as I think Genshin has superb lore, great stories and characters and I'm having nonstop fun with ZZZ... could hage played MANY other games istead. NTE and Ananta look really cool, as does Wuthering Waves, but please spare yourself of getting sucked into it lol



BraLoD said:
Kyuu said:

TallSilhouette said:

Genshin might last as long as FFXIV lol.

I have no experience with gachas outside the two or so months I had with FGO. It did get boring/repetitive quickly but the plot and characters kept me engaged for a few weeks. I really enjoyed some of Nasu's works.

These Chinese gachas are very impressive from my perspective as a spectator. I can't say much about the gameplay loop, but Anime-styled games with this level of visuals/animations/attention to detail are unheard of. And they keep impressing me more with new games/updates, about time I try one of them.

This NTE video kind of blew me away:

https://youtu.be/bUKZQ59gdII

Many people call Ananta "vaporware" but I think it's real and will be the more polished product than NTE (less bugs، better animations, physics, and potentially more satisfying combat) although NTE seems more ambitious as far as level design and the numbers of things you can do. Just my early impressions.

Yes the games will get repetitive, you do cool story and characters quests, and in Genshin explore cool new places, but most of the time you do repetitive stuff in between patches, because if you don't you'll have to pay to get those cool characters.

Something that is both a good and bad point, is that nowdays Genshin has so much content that you can actually drop other games altogether for like a year and still not get to the repetitive part of gacha model structure... it's intimidating and massively time consuming but this part of the game is nonstop good stuff for like 500 hours, lol.

Zenless Zone Zero is much newer and is not open world so there is no cool exploring to do like all the other famous gachas, but it has a lot more character interaction than those games because of it as well, it feels more like gacha action Persona than the other games, the game over 1 year old and I've not missed a single day without playing it, and I've never felt like dropping it, unlike Genshin that I dropped twice and are feeling like dropping it again nowdays.

My honest advice is to not play gachas tho, even as I think Genshin has superb lore, great stories and characters and I'm having nonstop fun with ZZZ... could hage played MANY other games istead. NTE and Ananta look really cool, as does Wuthering Waves, but please spare yourself of getting sucked into it lol

I'm a simple man. All I want is mommy Kafka in my NTE and I'm all set. Would be the first and last gacha character I'd roll for (in game and real life! Woof!!).

Seriously though... I can't see myself playing a gacha for more than a few months max. I did put several hundred hours in FFXIV (not a gacha but close enough as far as being a time sink), finished A Realm Reborn, Heavenward, Stormblood, and Shadowbringers, but then dropped and never returned. 

If I end up enjoying NTE or other gachas, I may roll for a few characters just to support the developers.



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Kyuu said:
BraLoD said:

Yes the games will get repetitive, you do cool story and characters quests, and in Genshin explore cool new places, but most of the time you do repetitive stuff in between patches, because if you don't you'll have to pay to get those cool characters.

Something that is both a good and bad point, is that nowdays Genshin has so much content that you can actually drop other games altogether for like a year and still not get to the repetitive part of gacha model structure... it's intimidating and massively time consuming but this part of the game is nonstop good stuff for like 500 hours, lol.

Zenless Zone Zero is much newer and is not open world so there is no cool exploring to do like all the other famous gachas, but it has a lot more character interaction than those games because of it as well, it feels more like gacha action Persona than the other games, the game over 1 year old and I've not missed a single day without playing it, and I've never felt like dropping it, unlike Genshin that I dropped twice and are feeling like dropping it again nowdays.

My honest advice is to not play gachas tho, even as I think Genshin has superb lore, great stories and characters and I'm having nonstop fun with ZZZ... could hage played MANY other games istead. NTE and Ananta look really cool, as does Wuthering Waves, but please spare yourself of getting sucked into it lol

I'm a simple man. All I want is mommy Kafka in my NTE and I'm all set. Would be the first and last gacha character I'd roll for (in game and real life! Woof!!).

Seriously though... I can't see myself playing a gacha for more than a few months max. I did put several hundred hours in FFXIV (not a gacha but close enough as far as being a time sink), finished A Realm Reborn, Heavenward, Stormblood, and Shadowbringers, but then dropped and never returned. 

If I end up enjoying NTE or other gachas, I may roll for a few characters just to support the developers.

I was on the verge of installing Wuthering Waves just to roll for Augusta last week, her design is just insane, but I'm glad I didn't lol.

A shame I was not part of FF14 because of the paid subscription model, looks like a great game.



BraLoD said:
Kyuu said:

I'm a simple man. All I want is mommy Kafka in my NTE and I'm all set. Would be the first and last gacha character I'd roll for (in game and real life! Woof!!).

Seriously though... I can't see myself playing a gacha for more than a few months max. I did put several hundred hours in FFXIV (not a gacha but close enough as far as being a time sink), finished A Realm Reborn, Heavenward, Stormblood, and Shadowbringers, but then dropped and never returned. 

If I end up enjoying NTE or other gachas, I may roll for a few characters just to support the developers.

I was on the verge of installing Wuthering Waves just to roll for Augusta last week, her design is just insane, but I'm glad I didn't lol.

A shame I was not part of FF14 because of the paid subscription model, looks like a great game.

Just watched her trailer. So good lol. Kuro is on a mission to let everyone know that they're no less than Mihoyo (minus the output lol), and other developers are trying the same. Good luck to them, they all deserve success for the quality on display, and the drive to outdo themselves and each other.

Also watched Seed's trailer from ZZZ, and I don't recall being emotionally connected to a character as quickly as with daddy Seed. The delivery is immaculate.

FF14 was great but pretty outdated. You could feel its PS3 era MMO roots. Had a great time with it nevertheless, a lot of stuff to do and the combat can actually get insane when played with a controller (the way controller shortcuts work is super satisfying), and the story in the better parts is peak. My main class was Dragoon ;D and my character was an old man that went by "The'elder Strolls" (A wordplay on The Elder Scrolls).



With how well Demon Slayer Infinity Castle is doing at the cinema, I think it's going to be a massive miss on SIE's (and Sony as a whole) part if Yotei doesn't get costume and weapon skin crossover support. i'd go as far as saying that not adding a dedicated Legends chapter (changing the enemies to look more like the Demons) would be a miss too.

That said, I think SIE and SuckerPunch are in such a perfect position to make a Yotei clone Demon Slayer game as a PS5/ PS6 title, giving them more runway for a PS6 only Ghost sequel.

They'd make bank imho.



So there are new rumors about Insomniac. Wolverine is on track for a 2026 release (I think we all expect this) and the Venom game has been in active development, it wasn't cancelled.

I hope the Venom game stays as a stand alone, the Miles Morales size is perfect for a spin off story.



GymratAmarillo said:

So there are new rumors about Insomniac. Wolverine is on track for a 2026 release (I think we all expect this) and the Venom game has been in active development, it wasn't cancelled.

I hope the Venom game stays as a stand alone, the Miles Morales size is perfect for a spin off story.

I can see Wolverine being 2026, Venom being 2027, then perhaps a new RC 2028 followed by SM3 in 2029.

i imagine Venom and a new RC would be smaller titles.