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Nadakhan16 said:

Of course they want limited Government. That is why they had DOGE. To cut the wasteful spending.

If DOGE actually cared about waste, fraud, and abuse they would have gone after the biggest, most overfunded source that has failed eight audits in a row, the US military. Instead they lied by orders of magnitude about how much money they 'saved' and most of the cuts they made ended up being ruled illegal and rolled back. All DOGE was really about was cutting healthcare and defunding regulatory agencies standing in the way of the rich and powerful like Musk himself. 



Nadakhan16 said:

Then why is it Democrats who keep pushing for racial discrimination in their policies?

Like this one?

https://apnews.com/article/dei-diversity-corporate-ruling

And this one?

https://thehill.com/regulation/554361-federal-judge-says-biden-restaurant-fund-discriminated-against-white-male/

And btw, I don't trust Democrats to correctly identify nazis.

Even if I gave you the benefit of the doubt (which you clearly have not earned), what does any of this have to do with the Trump administration being run by fascists? 

Nadakhan16 said:

Serious question. Why do Democrats keep calling Republicans Hitler?

They compared Hamilton Fish to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Robert Taft to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Joe McCarthy to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Barry Goldwater to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Richard Nixon to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Henry Kissinger to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Ronald Reagan to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared George HW Bush to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Newt Gingrich to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared George W Bush to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Dick Cheney to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared the Tea Party Movement to Nazis. They were lying.

And we are supposed to believe them this time?

You're going to have to make much sounder, more substantive arguments than this if you want this discussion to continue. I don't see you lasting long here. 



TallSilhouette said:
Nadakhan16 said:

Then why is it Democrats who keep pushing for racial discrimination in their policies?

Like this one?

https://apnews.com/article/dei-diversity-corporate-ruling

And this one?

https://thehill.com/regulation/554361-federal-judge-says-biden-restaurant-fund-discriminated-against-white-male/

And btw, I don't trust Democrats to correctly identify nazis.

Even if I gave you the benefit of the doubt (which you clearly have not earned), what does any of this have to do with the Trump administration being run by fascists? 

Nadakhan16 said:

Serious question. Why do Democrats keep calling Republicans Hitler?

They compared Hamilton Fish to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Robert Taft to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Joe McCarthy to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Barry Goldwater to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Richard Nixon to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Henry Kissinger to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Ronald Reagan to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared George HW Bush to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Newt Gingrich to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared George W Bush to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared Dick Cheney to Hitler. They were lying.
They compared the Tea Party Movement to Nazis. They were lying.

And we are supposed to believe them this time?

You're going to have to make much sounder, more substantive arguments than this if you want this discussion to continue. I don't see you lasting long here. 

This is the real problem, how do you break through FOX / MAGA indoctrination and propaganda.

It has been going on since Bush jr at least, sowing divide between democrats and republicans, which is all there is now for many in the USA. With everything going on people still blame it all on the other party. The locked binary party system, which is really just a show since the billionaire class is in control of both, is what led us here. Powerful lobbies run the states while the illusion of democracy keeps people divided.

Next to that we now see why unions are important, only a general strike can force the government to back down without further violence. Yet US lobbying made sure to bust unions and made them deeply unpopular through propaganda. Where the people have the power to fight back in for example France and Italy through unions, in the US that 'tool' has been carefully stripped and taken away.

So it looks like the US is as much doomed as Israel when it comes to the people solving the moral decline leading to apathy and eventually genocide. In Israel the many decades of propaganda have normalized genocide, ethnic cleansing and apartheid. Now it has all come back to the US. Cheering on attacking other countries, ignoring international law, might is right, brown / different is wrong.

ICE now has over 70,000 people rounded up in their detention facilities (concentration camps). 70-75% of them with no criminal history, contradicting the lies they would be focusing on the worst of the worst.

https://immigrantjustice.org/research/policy-brief-snapshot-of-ice-detention-inhumane-conditions-and-alarming-expansion/
23 people have died in ICE custody since the start of the Biden administration.

Yes that is the Biden administration, Red vs blue, it's the same fucking outcome. Yet people refuse to see what's behind it all even though the Epstein files are right there to reveal it. But those have been turned into a red vs blue tool as well. It started with the 2000 elections, red states vs blue states and has only been getting worse since then.


I always wondered why ordinary Germans let Hitler go through with everything he did. I can now see in real time how it happens.

Niemöller got one thing wrong though

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

There will always be a group of people left defending the regime out of greed, ignorance or deep held hatred of the 'other side'. Doesn't matter who they come for, the ones they don't come for (yet) will be cheering them on regardless. 

People don't learn from history while the propaganda and tools of destruction only become more deadly. Humanity is doomed.

If the USA / civilization in general survives this period, Nineteen Eighty-Four should become required reading material in school with full links to how it describes recent history.



Nadakhan16 said:
Machiavellian said:

Republicans want limited government, lol.  What they want is limited regulations not limited government.

The Bigger the Government, the smaller the citizen.

Of course they want limited Government. That is why they had DOGE. To cut the wasteful spending.

So why did the BBB add 4 trillion to the national debt.  Doesn't sound like DODGE was used to cut wasteful spending, instead it was used to approve spending for a different segment. You might want to help us all with how DODGE accomplished anything and now the white house want to spend even more money on the military because why not.  Seems like all we did was shuffle money around.

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It appears Ice is ramping up the BS, I wonder what would have happen if any of those children died because of this attack. Its getting to the point where they will kill someone else real soon.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/minneapolis-couple-says-ice-released-tear-gas-under-their-family-vehicle-with-6-children-inside/ar-AA1Ujvnz?ocid=BingNewsSerp





So, there is a theory going around that Trump true mission against Greenland and thus NATO is to have a reason for the US to exit NATO. Meaning, as a NATO country, to threaten another NATO ally with military annexation would of course break NATO as the other countries have no choice but to respond and thus this allows the US to exit NATO and blame of course NATO for the withdrawal. So the question is, will the US actually use military force to take Greenland or will it just be an excuse to use to leave NATO.



Ohh see, Trump is threatening every country with extra tariffs if they don't bow down to USA to get Greenland. Such a wonderful person! Threatening every country on this planet since a year to destroy their economy if you don't do what he wants. How can't you love him?

Countries really need to think about what's better for the long future. Suffer some the next years to get rid of USA's blackmailing tactic or always back down and help USA to get in an even stronger position compared to your own every year so that it might be a better situation in the short term economical but definitely even worse if you care about the longer future of your country. 

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