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Laughing at JD Vance, Vice President of America, beefing with Rory Stewart, former Tory MP.

JD Vance questioning Rory's intelligence, Lmao. Dude doesn't know who Rory is. I'd not vote Tory but Rory is smart. Also people who are obsessed with IQ are like those gamers whose only understanding of specs is teraflops, Lol. But anyway, Tory educated Vance but it'll fall on deaf ears, Americans are the most fraudulent Christians in the world, it's not Christianity they follow but some fucked up American Specific Christianity.



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SvennoJ said:
IkePoR said:

That's the million dollar question.  If we take into account what Trump says(illegal northern and southern border crossings, drug smuggling) and who Trump is(petty, arrogant, tough), I concluded this: oil from Canada, extortion from both.

Does he want our oil or not?

Trump thinks he can force us into becoming the 51st state with trade tarrifs. Ludicrous. Meanwhile the damage is already done. The sentiment about Americans is changing here fast.

He's blaming it on a fentanyl crisis coming from Canada as well, however, the numbers don't support him.

Trump Calls Canada a Big Player in the Fentanyl Trade. Is It? - The New York Times

As the opioid epidemic raged in the United States, killing thousands, Congress in 2020 established a commission to look into ways to reduce the flow of the drugs into the country. The commission found that “Canada is not known to be a major source of fentanyl, other synthetic opioids or precursor chemicals to the United States, a conclusion primarily drawn from seizure data,” according to its February 2022 report.

Last year, U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents intercepted about 19 kilograms of fentanyl at the northern border, compared with almost 9,600 kilograms at the border with Mexico, where cartels mass-produce the drug.

Financially, it doesn’t make sense for Canadian criminal groups to focus on exporting fentanyl south, said Daniel Anson, the director of intelligence and investigations at the Canada Border Services Agency. “Mexican fentanyl, due to the cost and the street price, is very difficult to compete with in the U.S.,” he said.

Canada has some of the strictest chemical import regulations in the world under its Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, but health officials and police often struggle to keep up with the evolving chemical components used by organized criminals to produce fentanyl.

Tariff On Canada Not Justified By U.S. Immigration And Drug Claims

In Fiscal Year 2024, USCBP seized 21,148 pounds of fentanyl at the southwest border, mostly smuggled from Mexico. In contrast, only 43 pounds were intercepted at the northern border. This means that less than 1% of all fentanyl seizures occurred at the U.S.-Canada border.

Furthermore, drug flows are not a one-way street. In 2024, the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) seized approximately 10.8 pounds of fentanyl coming into Canada from the United States. In comparison, CBSA reported that 17.6 pounds of fentanyl were smuggled from Canada into the U.S. This suggests that the trafficking issue is not as one-sided as the administration claims.



25% tariff for 43 pounds of fentanyl. Makes sense! The trade deficit excuse is horseshit as well. He just wants to bully countries to force them into bad deals. Tariffs still not been enforced yet, was meant to be today but seems it is being delayed slightly, if he suddenly says "it's okay guy, Canada promised to fix the made up fentanyl crisis, I am a master negotiator" you know it'll be bullshit, Lol.



By The Editorial Board

President Trump will fire his first tariff salvo on Saturday against those notorious American adversaries . . . Mexico and Canada. They’ll get hit with a 25% border tax, while China, a real adversary, will endure 10%. This reminds us of the old Bernard Lewis joke that it’s risky to be America’s enemy but it can be fatal to be its friend.

Leaving China aside, Mr. Trump’s justification for this economic assault on the neighbors makes no sense. White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt says they’ve “enabled illegal drugs to pour into America.” But drugs have flowed into the U.S. for decades, and will continue to do so as long as Americans keep using them. Neither country can stop it.

Drugs may be an excuse since Mr. Trump has made clear he likes tariffs for their own sake. “We don’t need the products that they have,” Mr. Trump said on Thursday. “We have all the oil you need. We have all the trees you need, meaning the lumber.”

Mr. Trump sometimes sounds as if the U.S. shouldn’t import anything at all, that America can be a perfectly closed economy making everything at home. This is called autarky, and it isn’t the world we live in, or one that we should want to live in, as Mr. Trump may soon find out.

Take the U.S. auto industry, which is really a North American industry because supply chains in the three countries are highly integrated. In 2024 Canada supplied almost 13% of U.S. imports of auto parts and Mexico nearly 42%. Industry experts say a vehicle made on the continent goes back and forth across borders a half dozen times or more, as companies source components and add value in the most cost-effective ways.

And everyone benefits. The office of the U.S. Trade Representative says that in 2023 the industry added more than $809 billion to the U.S. economy, or about 11.2% of total U.S. manufacturing output, supporting “9.7 million direct and indirect U.S. jobs.” In 2022 the U.S. exported $75.4 billion in vehicles and parts to Canada and Mexico. That number jumped 14% in 2023 to $86.2 billion, according to the American Automotive Policy Council.

American car makers would be much less competitive without this trade. Regional integration is now an industry-wide manufacturing strategy—also employed in Japan, Korea and Europe—aimed at using a variety of high-skilled and low-cost labor markets to source components, software and assembly.

The result has been that U.S. industrial capacity in autos has grown alongside an increase in imported motor vehicles, engines and parts. From 1995-2019, imports of autos, engines and parts rose 169% while U.S. industrial capacity in autos, engines and parts rose 71%.

As the Cato Institute’s Scott Lincicome puts it, the data show that “as imports go up, U.S. production goes up.” Thousands of good-paying auto jobs in Texas, Ohio, Illinois and Michigan owe their competitiveness to this ecosystem, relying heavily on suppliers in Mexico and Canada.

Tariffs will also cause mayhem in the cross-border trade in farm goods. In fiscal 2024, Mexican food exports made up about 23% of total U.S. agricultural imports while Canada supplied some 20%. Many top U.S. growers have moved to Mexico because limits on legal immigration have made it hard to find workers in the U.S. Mexico now supplies 90% of avocados sold in the U.S. Is Mr. Trump now an avocado nationalist?

Then there’s the prospect of retaliation, which Canada and Mexico have shown they know how to do for maximum political impact. In 2009 the Obama Administration and Congressional Democrats ended a pilot program that allowed Mexican long-haul truckers into the U.S. as stipulated in Nafta. Mexico responded with targeted retaliation on 90 U.S. goods to pressure industries in key Congressional districts.

These included California grapes and wine, Oregon Christmas trees and cherries, jams and jellies from Ohio and North Dakota soy. When Mr. Trump imposed steel and aluminum tariffs in 2018, Mexico got results using the same tactic, putting tariffs on steel, pork products, fresh cheese and bourbon.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has promised to respond to U.S. tariffs on a dollar-for-dollar basis. Canada could suffer a larger GDP hit since its economy is so much smaller, but American consumers will feel the bite of higher costs for some goods.

None of this is supposed to happen under the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade agreement that Mr. Trump negotiated and signed in his first term. The U.S. willingness to ignore its treaty obligations, even with friends, won’t make other countries eager to do deals. Maybe Mr. Trump will claim victory and pull back if he wins some token concessions. But if a North American trade war persists, it will qualify as one of the dumbest in history.

The Dumbest Trade War in History - WSJ

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Tariffs delayed until Tuesday. "Canadian press is reporting the 25% tariff on Canada will be on “virtually all goods” starting on Tuesday. Oil will be tariffs at 10%. Reports says the tariffs will stay in place until Trump is satisfied Canada is doing enough to stop the flow of fentanyl." The flow of less than 1% of fentanyl, Lol.

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TallSilhouette said:
Zkuq said:

Did there use to be Trump supporters too in this thread? I've been following this thread only a bit and only recently, and there doesn't seem to be any Trump support here. I'm pretty sure I've seen some on this site before, but there's none of that to be seen here now.

Most just lurk and make the occasional snide driveby comment without any substance or support once in a while. The few that are actually willing to discuss and support their own views don't seem to last. Some get thread or permabanned for violating forum rules, some leave out of victim complex, some quietly shrink away because they realize they really are out of their depth, a few have left the site entirely and asked for their posts to be scrubbed from the site. I hope these people did so because they saw the error of their ways and are ashamed of some of their comments but who knows?

Case in point: Jimbo

the-pi-guy said:
Jimbo1337 said:

I have proof of one post being deleted. This post exposes Machiavellian, who is a moderator on this site. When his post was initially submitted, I reported the issue to which Ryuu96 felt like it was a non issue. When I later brought up Machiavellian's post at a later time, pi-guy also felt it was a non issue. When I came back, Machiavellian's original post and my posts were all deleted. 

I thankfully screenshotted Machiavellian's original post before it was deleted. Tell me how to post an image on here or how you would like me to send it. I got the proof. No bullshit

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9522886

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9522922

The posts weren't deleted.

The thread was locked long after, which causes them to be removed from everyone's post history, including mine. I don't particularly like that feature. 

Sorry, to tell you, you're not special. 

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Main%20Character%20Syndrome



Trump has signed three Executive Orders implementing 25% tariffs on imports from Mexico, 25% on imports from Canada (except "energy," which is 10%) and 10% on China, per officials.

Key: the orders have a retaliation clause & tariffs could rise if (when) the countries respond.

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Canada should increase trade with EU and UK should accept that leaving EU was an awful decision and re-join. EU is next, united is the best way to stand up to the bully that is America. Retaliation tariffs, Lol...Basically "I'm going to be a massive asshole to you, but don't do anything in response, or else!" Stand firm Canada and Mexico, a bully only stops when you stand up to them, otherwise they continue taking advantage, I mean Trump is complaining about a trade-deal that he signed and 43 pounds of fentanyl. America's economy is stronger than Canada and Mexico's but it'll depend more on whose citizens can put up with more bullshit and in my experience, Americans are fragile as fuck.

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Ryuu96 said:

Tariffs delayed until Tuesday. "Canadian press is reporting the 25% tariff on Canada will be on “virtually all goods” starting on Tuesday. Oil will be tariffs at 10%. Reports says the tariffs will stay in place until Trump is satisfied Canada is doing enough to stop the flow of fentanyl." The flow of less than 1% of fentanyl, Lol.

I've heard Tuesday here since last week, did he try to speed it up to Saturday? 3 days doesn't matter anyway.

We have our own fentanyl problem
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/substance-related-harms/opioids-stimulants/

And doing plenty about it, but not by imposing tarrifs on countries (Mexico, India, China) where finished products and precursor chemicals come from.

Busting labs inside the country but also by addressing the source

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/opioids/federal-actions/overview.html

  • On October 11, 2024, the Government launched a call for proposals for the Emergency Treatment Fund. The fund was announced in Budget 2024 ($150 million over three years) and is open to municipalities and Indigenous communities. It aims to provide a rapid response to emergent, critical needs related to the illegal toxic drug and overdose crisis. The first call for proposals closed on November 8, 2024 and applications are being reviewed
  • Launched the Canadian Drug and Substance Watch, an innovative surveillance tool with early warning capabilities, that helps monitor, predict and respond to the rise of new and emerging psychoactive substances
  • Launched the Youth Mental Health Fund with $500 million in funding over five years to help younger Canadians access the mental health care they need
  • Released the most recent national data on opioid- and stimulant-related deaths, hospitalizations, emergency department visits and Emergency Medical Services responses in collaboration with provinces and territories
  • Updated modelling projections on opioid-related deaths to June 2025 to understand and plan for potential scenarios

Since 2017, the Government has committed over $1 billion, in addition to the Bilateral Agreements with provinces, directly to address the illegal toxic drug and overdose crisis;


It's just a distraction, citing drug crisis. And Fentanyl alone became 'popular' due to cracking down on other drugs. And the next one is already showing up. https://www.utmb.edu/mdnews/podcast/episode/even-worse-than-fentanyl Nitazenes.

Fix the cause, go after big pharma for getting people addicted to opioid pain medications, educate, give people alternatives and better ways to deal with their problems. Solve the problems that drive people to drug use.

So far cracking down on drugs has only led to more and more dangerous drugs showing up.



You might want to put gas in your car today.

Canada is America's biggest source of imported oil -- supplying almost 60%.

When Canada slaps a retaliatory tariff on their oil, gas prices are going UP UP UP.

All because of Donald Trump.

— Tristan Snell (@tristansnell.bsky.social) 31 January 2025 at 21:02

Don't worry, Trump knows.

WHITE HOUSE: "LOWERED CANADIAN TARIFF ON ENERGY TO MINIMIZE RISE IN COSTS"

😂😂😂

Trump Did That

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Pierre Poilievre, Leader of Canada's Conservative Party

We must put CANADA FIRST.

That is why Common Sense Conservatives condemn President Trump’s massive, unjust and unjustified tariffs on Canada’s already weak economy. Canada is the United States’ closest neighbour, greatest ally and best friend. We share the longest undefended border and fought alongside Americans in two world wars, Korea and Afghanistan, where 158 of our brave men and women died helping the U.S. avenge the 9/11 attacks. There is no justification whatsoever for this treatment.

The Liberals must put aside their partisan interests and recall Parliament now to pass a Canada First Plan that will:

1. Retaliate with dollar-for-dollar tariffs carefully aimed at maximizing impact on American companies while minimizing impact on Canadian consumers. That means targeting U.S. products that we can make ourselves, buy elsewhere or do without. For example, we must retaliate against American steel and aluminium, as Canadians can make those vital products at home.

2. Put all the tariff revenues into help for affected workers and businesses; Government should not keep a dime of the new revenue.

3. Pass a massive emergency Bring It Home Tax Cut to bolster the economy, stop inflation and save and create jobs. Canada needs a massive tax cut on work, investment, energy, homebuilding and making stuff at home. The Liberal carbon tax and capital gains tax hikes must be the first on the chopping block.

4. Immediately scrap the Liberal anti-resource law C-69 and greenlight LNG plans, pipelines, mines, factories, and port expansions to overseas markets.

5. Bring in truly free trade within Canada by knocking down interprovincial barriers to help replace lost north-south trade with east-west trade and to make us self-reliant.

6. Rebuild our military and take back control of our borders to regain the confidence of our partners, assert our sovereignty, protect our people and put Canada First.

We will protect our economy, defend our sovereignty, bring home production and paycheques and never back down. We will put Canada First—now and always.