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SanAndreasX 1 day ago

And one of the shitbirds Trump pardoned for J6 got shot and killed by police in Indiana while resisting arrest. A traffic stop led to an altercation between him and the police officer, he produced a gun, and the officer shot him.

The "back the blue" crowd is in meltdown mode on social media, insisting that it was a politically motivated murder.

Indiana man pardoned for Jan. 6 crimes is killed in traffic stop shooting by deputy - NBC



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SanAndreasX 1 day ago
sc94597 said:
SanAndreasX said:

Let's hope that's all he is. The problem is, the Southern Baptist Church and other evangelical churches have spent the past 50 years grooming generations of people in the South for someone like Trump. That kind of programming is going to be hard to overcome.

My concern is that Trump will become the American version of Ferdinand Marcos - decades of robbing the people blind and enriching his family at the public's expense, installing his family in Congress. They so thoroughly whitewashed Marcos's regime in the Phlippines that Ferdinand Marcos Jr. won the 2022 election in a landslide. 

People's bellies will wake them up. No individual in politics is safe from the beast that is American consumerism. It is the real religion of the U.S. Evangelicals, for all their loudness, are a small minority that are dwindling in numerical power. Trump didn't win because of them. 

The problem with comparing the U.S to developing countries is that people become more angry when they lose something they've been accustomed to having than when they lose some potentiality.  

The hissy-fit that was the post-Covid right-wing shift of the American population was because Walmarts are no longer 24 hours and service workers no longer want to be abused and quit. Imagine what happens when most Americans are actually skipping meals.

We'll see. I spent a lot of my formative years in the Bible Belt, thankfully my parents carried their West Coast values with them and didn't raise me in the church. You underestimate how deep the religious grooming runs in that part of the country. 



sc94597 1 day ago
SanAndreasX said:
sc94597 said:

People's bellies will wake them up. No individual in politics is safe from the beast that is American consumerism. It is the real religion of the U.S. Evangelicals, for all their loudness, are a small minority that are dwindling in numerical power. Trump didn't win because of them. 

The problem with comparing the U.S to developing countries is that people become more angry when they lose something they've been accustomed to having than when they lose some potentiality.  

The hissy-fit that was the post-Covid right-wing shift of the American population was because Walmarts are no longer 24 hours and service workers no longer want to be abused and quit. Imagine what happens when most Americans are actually skipping meals.

We'll see. I spent a lot of my formative years in the Bible Belt, thankfully my parents carried their West Coast values with them and didn't raise me in the church. You underestimate how deep the religious grooming runs in that part of the country. 

I don't underestimate it, but you can't win or maintain national power by having the bible belt alone, even if religious grooming is heavy there. 

There aren't enough EC votes in the South. 

That is why Trump had to appeal to the Rust Belt, modern Florida, Appalachia, etc. The populations of these states vote on what they think their material interests are first and foremost. This is also the basis of the right-populist perspectives surrounding race and immigration. 

I grew up in semi-rural appalachia. The transition from voting for Democrats -> Trump has been purely about material interests here, not religion. 



SanAndreasX 1 day ago
sc94597 said:
SanAndreasX said:

We'll see. I spent a lot of my formative years in the Bible Belt, thankfully my parents carried their West Coast values with them and didn't raise me in the church. You underestimate how deep the religious grooming runs in that part of the country. 

I don't underestimate it, but you can't win or maintain national power by having the bible belt alone, even if religious grooming is heavy there. 

There aren't enough EC votes in the South. 

That is why Trump had to appeal to the Rust Belt, modern Florida, Appalachia, etc. The populations of these states vote on what they think their material interests are first and foremost. This is also the basis of the right-populist perspectives surrounding race and immigration. 

I grew up in semi-rural appalachia. The transition from voting for Democrats -> Trump has been purely about material interests here, not religion. 

I've already seen that narrative change. "The price of eggs" was 2024's "but her emails." The price of eggs (and other foodstuffs) are still going to the moon, but they're openly saying now that they don't care about that anymore, that the real importance is that Trump is implementing their ideology in government and in foreign relations. He's getting rid of all those "illegals," never mind that crops are starting to rot on the vine in Texas and Oklahoma. They're cheering over Google caving in on "Gulf of America" and "Mount McKinley." Ryan Walters has been absolutely gleeful that he has free reign to implement his religious agenda in Oklahoma. Meanwhile his Republican counterpart in Arizona, who is something of an ideologue in his own right, is appalled at the idea of ICE raiding Arizona schools. 

Trump himself said that grocery prices are not a concern of his last week. Their enthusiasm for him still has yet to be dampened. I'm hoping the clusterfuck with Medicaid will be a tipping point, but I'm not optimistic. 

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sc94597 1 day ago
SanAndreasX said:
sc94597 said:

I don't underestimate it, but you can't win or maintain national power by having the bible belt alone, even if religious grooming is heavy there. 

There aren't enough EC votes in the South. 

That is why Trump had to appeal to the Rust Belt, modern Florida, Appalachia, etc. The populations of these states vote on what they think their material interests are first and foremost. This is also the basis of the right-populist perspectives surrounding race and immigration. 

I grew up in semi-rural appalachia. The transition from voting for Democrats -> Trump has been purely about material interests here, not religion. 

I've already seen that narrative change. "The price of eggs" was 2024's "but her emails." The price of eggs (and other foodstuffs) are still going to the moon, but they're openly saying now that they don't care about that anymore, that the real importance is that Trump is implementing their ideology in government and in foreign relations. He's getting rid of all those "illegals," never mind that crops are starting to rot on the vine in Texas and Oklahoma. They're cheering over Google caving in on "Gulf of America" and "Mount McKinley." Ryan Walters has been absolutely gleeful that he has free reign to implement his religious agenda in Oklahoma. Meanwhile his Republican counterpart in Arizona, who is something of an ideologue in his own right, is appalled at the idea of ICE raiding Arizona schools. 

They are saying this now because they still have their job and their biweekly food-cache. Once the first is gone and the latter is empty then get back to them and see their reaction.

There have already been posts about empty grocery stores and panic attacks about losing SNAP benefits from Trump supporters and it has only been a week. FAFOing Trump supporters/voters is a genre of subreddit now. 

The largest industry in the U.S is healthcare. Nearly a quarter to a third of middle class Americans (depending on how you define it) work in the operations of healthcare, financing of healthcare, or direct provisioning of healthcare. What happens when spending on health-care decreases by 20% because Medicaid isn't funded? These are jobs that pay at the 50th - 90th percentile, and the class that works in them are some of the heaviest consumers. What happens when silent generation parents of boomers are kicked out of nursing homes because Medicaid no longer pays for it? 

What happens to the agro-industry when SNAP and WIC aren't funded? Much of the midwest needs to keep prices stable because of other government mandates. Are we going to lift price-controls and let dust-bowl #2 happen? Probably. 

Things are going to get a lot worse than this week. I doubt most working and middle class Trump voters are going to stoicly and quietly starve. Their instincts will kick in.



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SanAndreasX 1 day ago
sc94597 said:
SanAndreasX said:

I've already seen that narrative change. "The price of eggs" was 2024's "but her emails." The price of eggs (and other foodstuffs) are still going to the moon, but they're openly saying now that they don't care about that anymore, that the real importance is that Trump is implementing their ideology in government and in foreign relations. He's getting rid of all those "illegals," never mind that crops are starting to rot on the vine in Texas and Oklahoma. They're cheering over Google caving in on "Gulf of America" and "Mount McKinley." Ryan Walters has been absolutely gleeful that he has free reign to implement his religious agenda in Oklahoma. Meanwhile his Republican counterpart in Arizona, who is something of an ideologue in his own right, is appalled at the idea of ICE raiding Arizona schools. 

They are saying this now because they still have their job and their biweekly food-cache. Once the first is gone and the latter is empty then get back to them and see their reaction.

There have already been posts about empty grocery stores and panic attacks about losing SNAP benefits from Trump supporters and it has only been a week. FAFOing Trump supporters/voters is a genre of subreddit now. 

The largest industry in the U.S is healthcare. Nearly a quarter to a third of middle class Americans (depending on how you define it) work in the operations of healthcare, financing of healthcare, or direct provisioning of healthcare. What happens when spending on health-care decreases by 20% because Medicaid isn't funded? These are jobs that pay at the 50th - 90th percentile, and the class that works in them are some of the heaviest consumers. What happens when silent generation parents of boomers are kicked out of nursing homes because Medicaid no longer pays for it? 

What happens to the agro-industry when SNAP and WIC aren't funded? Much of the midwest needs to keep prices stable because of other government mandates. Are we going to lift price-controls and let dust-bowl #2 happen? Probably. 

Things are going to get a lot worse than this week. I doubt most working and middle class Trump voters are going to stoicly and quietly starve. Their instincts will kick in.

Like I said, we'll see. I've personally seen people suffer a lot of pain just to be "right." In a sane world, things shouldn't even have to go that far. 

This meme seems apropros for the people who are in the FO phase.



RolStoppable 1 day ago

Americans are world champions in stupidity. If some are starving, they just need to be told why the Dems are to blame and will be fine with it because that's what they've been conditioned to.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

SanAndreasX 1 day ago

And now Trump is offering a buyout for all federal workers if they quit by Feb 6.



sc94597 1 day ago

And basically this whole thread on r/conservatives. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1ic0l3h/trump_pauses_all_federal_grants_loans_and_other/

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TallSilhouette 1 day ago