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Ryuu96 said:
iron_megalith said:

I guess it was just right to let things be and let it spiral out of control to have all your points proven. If only we still had those old posts from the old thread.

People said illegal immigration was not an issue
People said Biden had no cognitive problems
People said Trump is a fascist that would use everything in his power to shut down or jail the opposition
People said right wing groups are the true danger and that the left has no fringe elements

Boy. Look where we are right now. Just a lucky turn of the head saved this country from going completely ballistic. Meanwhile the fringe people on the left are pissed at the shooter for fumbling it.

It only took us 8 years to realize that people have been exacting political violence on Trump/Trump supporters. It first started with punching people who had MAGA hats. Now it's shooting Trump himself.

What the hell does illegal immigration have to do with a white American dude shooting at Trump? What does Biden's "cognitive problems" have to do with an assassination attempt? Yes Trump is a fascist and everything about Project 2025 is fascism, I'm sorry that upsets you. All you people always acting like MAGA haven't been both enforcing and wishing violence for the past 8 years are living in a fantasy world, I'll just repost what I posted a few weeks back because I can't be arsed to write up a new version.

What about the violence from the MAGA cult on January 6th where they tried to overthrow their own damn government and resulted in actual deaths? How about the GOP Candidate Who Called for Obama’s Execution or Oklahoma GOP Candidate Who Called Killing Gay People ‘Totally Just’ or Florida State Republican Lawmaker Calling For All Palestinians To Die or Ex-GOP Gov Candidate Calling For ‘Firing Squad’ For Transgender Allies or Texas GOP Proposing Potential Death Penalty for Women Who Get Abortions or Republican State Senator Calling LGBTQ+ People 'Filth' When Asked About Death of Nonbinary Student or Trump, Paul Gosar Suggesting Gen. Mark Milley Deserves Death or GOP Rep Supports Foreign Law That Allows Death Penalty for Being Gay or GOP Candidate Calling For Garland's Death or Trump Supporters Calling For Riots and Violent Retribution After Verdict or Republican Senator Suggesting Peaceful Protesters Would Be Thrown Off Bridge in Home State or Kari Lake Encouraging Supporters to Strap 'On a Glock' For 2024 or Rep. Paul Gosar Posting a Video Depicting Violence Against Ocasio Cortez and Biden or Trump Not Ruling Out Political Violence If He Loses, Saying He Would Consider Pardoning All The Jan 6th Violent Thugs or North Carolina GOP Gov Nominee Mark Robinson Endorsing Political Violence or Project 2025 Architect Signalling Bloodshed If Left Opposes Them

Lets not forget demonising LGBTQ+ and ripping away peoples humans rights (women) but now you're *ShockedPikachu* that violence happens.

Remember when Trump threw Mike Pence to the wolves and Said Maybe Mob Was Right to Chant ‘Hang Mike Pence’ or the Trump Supporters Mailing Pipe Bombs to Democrats and the 3 Far-Right Extremist Groups Taking Part in Jan 6  or the Ohio Gunman Killed by FBI, Who Threatened Them After Trump's Home Search And Trump inflammatory accusation, Falsely Claiming US Justice Department Was Ready To Kill Him over a document search. Trump's lunatic lawyer team Arguing Assassination of Rivals is Covered by Presidential Immunity. Here's Trump casually sharing a word cloud posted by the Daily Mail That Featured "Revenge" and "Dictatorship" as some of the most common words people surveyed chose to describe what a potential second Trump term would be about. Here he is threatening to go after Biden and the Entire "Biden Crime Family". Trump Has Threatened Dozens of Times To Use The Government To Target Political Enemies, How about "Lock Her Up" Anyone? Or Trump Demanding Journalists Be JailedStatements from people who have worked with Trump like Former Pentagon Chief Esper Says Trump Wanted to Shoot Protesters. How about that time Trump not so casually Implied Someone Could Assassinate Hillary? GOP Platform Pledges to Deport ‘Pro-Hamas Radicals’ From US Which we know this is just code for "Muslims" and Republicans love mixing Pro-Hamas with Pro-Palestine but even if we take the best assumption that they do mean Pro-Hamas Radicals...If they're American citizens then where the fuck are you deporting them?

Felt like adding more.

Bu-Bu-But It's All The Left. MAGA Are Innocent I Tell Ya! 😢



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Ryuu96 said:

Also the media have treated Trump with kids gloves, Christ if this is what makes some people upset I'd hate to see how they'd react if the media actually ragged on Trump as much as they do Biden's age, they'd have an absolute meltdown.

It's my honest opinion that the billionaire owners want Trump back because he's good for clicks and ratings.

Fucking LOL.

I follow the Spectator for shit and giggles (to keep an open mind really), Kate is consistently the worst with her no-news news pieces. I am not surprised this is what she has to say:

"There is only one appropriate response to such horrors. Today, we are all MAGA. Or at least, most of us are. American politics has sunk so low into the cesspit of political despair, there will be a rare few who can’t bring themselves to say this."

Humans and their ever dying thirst for real-life soap opera moment, we're all MAGA? gtfo, what a drama queen.



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Basically no real change to both NBC and Fox's polling from pre-debate, Lol.

*Fucking Shrug* Lol. I hate these polls.

NBC poll:

62% of Democrats now say they would have preferred another candidate to Biden
79% of voters, including 61% of Dems, say they have concerns about Biden having the necessarily physical and mental health to be president

When third party candidates are added the lead goes from Trump +2 in a H2H to Biden +3.

=

I really don't have a fucking clue if Dems need to stick with Biden or switch to Harris.

Think the issue is no matter what happens, Dems are voting Dem and MAGA are voting MAGA and absolutely nothing will change that fact and the independents won't decide until much closer to election so we're seeing polls barely changing until then, aside from slight temporary boosts.

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Another poll with barely any change post-debate.

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LurkerJ said:
Ryuu96 said:

Also the media have treated Trump with kids gloves, Christ if this is what makes some people upset I'd hate to see how they'd react if the media actually ragged on Trump as much as they do Biden's age, they'd have an absolute meltdown.

It's my honest opinion that the billionaire owners want Trump back because he's good for clicks and ratings.

Fucking LOL.

I follow the Spectator for shit and giggles (to keep an open mind really), Kate is consistently the worst with her no-news news pieces. I am not surprised this is what she has to say:

"There is only one appropriate response to such horrors. Today, we are all MAGA. Or at least, most of us are. American politics has sunk so low into the cesspit of political despair, there will be a rare few who can’t bring themselves to say this."

Humans and their ever dying thirst for real-life soap opera moment, we're all MAGA? gtfo, what a drama queen.

How about "We should be more pro-gun control and safety laws"



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LurkerJ said:

Can we merge the US politics thread with the other one? Essentially, it's a duplicate because everybody is discussing the same things on two different forums.

Kindly, the admin team, if you can look into this.

Just to clarify, what thread are you talking about?

The Biden vs Trump one?

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Ryuu96 said:
LurkerJ said:

I follow the Spectator for shit and giggles (to keep an open mind really), Kate is consistently the worst with her no-news news pieces. I am not surprised this is what she has to say:

"There is only one appropriate response to such horrors. Today, we are all MAGA. Or at least, most of us are. American politics has sunk so low into the cesspit of political despair, there will be a rare few who can’t bring themselves to say this."

Humans and their ever dying thirst for real-life soap opera moment, we're all MAGA? gtfo, what a drama queen.

How about "We should be more pro-gun control and safety laws"

You have sunk so low into the cesspit of political despair, clearly. 



Ryuu96 said:
LurkerJ said:

Can we merge the US politics thread with the other one? Essentially, it's a duplicate because everybody is discussing the same things on two different forums.

Kindly, the admin team, if you can look into this.

Just to clarify, what thread are you talking about?

The Biden vs Trump one?

Yeah, it would be easier to follow



Ryuu96 said:

I really don't have a fucking clue if Dems need to stick with Biden or switch to Harris.

Think the issue is no matter what happens, Dems are voting Dem and MAGA are voting MAGA and absolutely nothing will change that fact and the independents won't decide until much closer to election so we're seeing polls barely changing until then, aside from slight temporary boosts.

Yeah, it seems like the Dem candidate doesn't really matter too much when they are placed against Trump. It would be nice if anything mattered but it seems the effect is so minimal it gets lost in polling error. Because of that, Biden won't step down and we'll be stuck in this mess of a race.

All I feel I can really do at this point is vote blue (no matter who) and hope those few independents come to their senses in November.



LurkerJ said:
Ryuu96 said:

Just to clarify, what thread are you talking about?

The Biden vs Trump one?

Yeah, it would be easier to follow

I've thought about locking it in the past, Lol.

Not for any other reason other than it just feels like we have two mega threads running, they both discuss the same topics, they both cover a broad range of US Politics...The only difference feels like the title and I'm sometimes torn between where to post, Lol.

We don't have any mechanism for merging though and I fear what will happen if we quickly created one

This site is held together by duct-tape.